# My wife needs to know!

#### Tammy

F Paulsson said:
Real money, fiancé knows.

Exiting the poker program in the middle of a hand because your wife walked in is definitely -EV, by the way. Honesty has an EV=0, so that's clearly better.
Can we please get an equation to show how you determine these #'s?

#### Sammyv1

##### Legend
Silver Level
juiceeQ said:
Can we please get an equation to show how you determine these #'s?

You know hes got one!!! A+B=C

#### F Paulsson

##### euro love
Silver Level
juiceeQ said:
Can we please get an equation to show how you determine these #'s?
Sure!

Let's say that you play a single table, at a rate of about 50 hands/hour. Let's further stipulate that your wife walks in on average once per hour, but that you only have to panickingly close the client every other time (the other times maybe it's enough to just alt-tab).

With a somewhat normal distribution of hands and playstyle for an atleast-breakeven-player, you're likely to play about 20% of the hands you're dealt, and you're likely to go to showdown with about 40% of them. To make the calculations easier, let's pretend it's 50% showdowns. This means that you get 10% of the hands to showdown. Let's also consider that you win about 30% of all the hands that you play (a pretty common statistic).

Alright. So 30% of 20% is 6% - you expect to win 6% of the hands you play. The only time closing down the client is -EV is when you're currently playing a hand that you would have won. The wife will walk in on - and causing you to close the client - 1% of the hands. 1% of 6% is 0.06%. You're forfeiting a pot of 0.06% of whatever the standard pot size is at the limits you play.

For instance, I play chiefly \$2/\$4 limit. The average pot size is \$25 (roughly). 0.06% of \$25 is 0.015, or 1.5 cents. So if Lori didn't know, I'd be losing 1.5 cents an hour trying to hide it from her. This translates into a winrate decrease of 0.075 BB/100.

Now this just further proves my point that in limit poker, it's all about pushing the small edges...

Perhaps Bill would like a discussion on the metagame disadvantages to lying to the missus, as well. I believe there could be many.

#### Spanky66

##### Rising Star
Bronze Level

me and my wife both play ,Me the most!!!!!!!!

as long as she gets her CUT she's fine . but she doesn't want too here the LOSSES.........

then it's time too begg for more money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:withstupi

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#### pokerbrat0582

##### Rising Star
Bronze Level
my husband and i both play for money on multiple sites and the only time i have gotten mad was when he didnt tell me. He didnt tell me b/c he lost alot of money and added to the account so i wouldnt know!!

#### StarlightCoast

##### Rising Star
Silver Level
I am currently trying to earn enough to turn pro and by that I simply mean playing full time for a living. My wife totally and completely is my biggest moral supporter in this. I could not imagine not telling my wife what money I was spending as our relationship has always been based on trust. If it would be a girlfriend that you are NOT living with, then I assume it would not be any of her business, but if you do live with them, the same rules would apply in that circumstance as it would for a married couple. And that's my 2 cents worth.

##### Legend
Silver Level
I'm a wife and I play for real money. Infact if you want to get technical my hubby does to, but from MY winnings. I am the only one of us that has deposited and only have done it twice in 3 + years. Everything else has been freeroll winnings.

Now my DH has went to work and afterwards went to the casino to play live without me knowing until he comes home later than he should. He has done this a few times just to blow off steam from work. I wouldn't really mind it "if" we had the money and he would call me. Infact, one of the times he went He won quite a bit with the Bad beat Jackpot.(was happy for that but not for his not calling)
But now since he has done it a few times, when he is LATE I am worried he is out blowing money. The lack of consideration and respect on his part for me with this, has lost some of my trust/respect in him. I don't like feeling this way not one bit. Honesty like Juicee said is the ONLY way to go. You don't want something like poker to get in the way of a good thing.

Silver Level

#### list

##### Legend
Silver Level
Real money.
Wife knows.
In fact, sometimes she "Makes" me play.

MINE TOO !!!!! only so see can watch soap opera crap on telly in peace and not have me asking every couple of minutes WHOS THAT !!!!!!!! WHY SHE DOING THAT !!!!!! WHOS SHE RELATED TOO !!!!!!! and the best one CAN I TURN IT OVER YET !!!!!!!! Promptley kick out of the room to play online poker

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#### Freakakanus

##### Legend
Silver Level
starfall said:
one approach is to get a deposit amount given to you as a birthday present
This is a great idea, I have been given this present twice now......not sure if my wife's getting lazy or just knows what I really want.

#### JessieBear15331

##### Legend
Silver Level
My fiance, t1riel, plays for real money, but I don't. He's always told me he plays for money, and when/what he deposits, though he doesn't have to. We trust each other enough to tell the other monetary expediture. Also, it's his hard earned money, so if he wants to spend some, that's his perogative!
PS - We're getting married in November of 2008, and we already have more than \$2700 saved, so we're good as far as money!

#### NightTrap

##### Rising Star
Bronze Level
My wife would not let me play with real money untill i found a loop hole in the system.This is the method I used,I signed up for paypal account then found a legit website to make money to support my gambling habbit .She never found out,and the best part i get to keep all my online winnings for myself.

#### AlurOne

##### Rock Star
Silver Level
JessieBear15331 said:
PS - We're getting married in November of 2008, and we already have more than \$2700 saved, so we're good as far as money!

congrats on the engagement! keep saving because those hidden wedding expenses come quick!

#### CYP05

##### Rising Star
Bronze Level
I dont play for real money right now but if I ever do I will be sure to talk it over with the wife first, thats only fair. I am currently just doing freerolls to try to get a bankroll without depositing. So far no good LOL