What to consider to make a living from poker?

[DiegoRamos]

It's a simple question for some people but complex for others.

For the overwhelming majority the answer is obvious, you need to know if you can pay the bills or simply earn more than your own job.

In a way, you are correct, that is the basis, correcting your strategy, adapting as much and as quickly as possible to the new strategies or movements of regular players who have studied your game.

But what you need to know and often doesn't even cross your mind... Poker is not just a game of skill and luck, you must include your mental state, so to progress or even be a profitable player, you need to take care of your mind . Not just during the game, but that includes everything away from the table, namely your problems. If you don't look for forms of self-control and mental stabilization, you can be absolutely sure that you won't make progress in the long run and your profit chart will look like a roller coaster.

For many people, meditation is a good path, but the ideal is to first have self-knowledge and really know what works for you.

That done, already knowing what your game is and how to keep your mind healthy, you are on the right path to make a living from poker, just keep improving your game until you reach your goal.

And you, what do you think about it?

 

[Gary_Heart]

Simply - Consider Not Making a Living from Poker LOL:Cool:

 

[neptunas888]

You need to take into account the distance it will correct all the minuses, lol

 

[Ruslan L]

It's a simple question for some people but complex for others.

For the overwhelming majority the answer is obvious, you need to know if you can pay the bills or simply earn more than your own job.

In a way, you are correct, that is the basis, correcting your strategy, adapting as much and as quickly as possible to the new strategies or movements of regular players who have studied your game.

But what you need to know and often doesn't even cross your mind... Poker is not just a game of skill and luck, you must include your mental state, so to progress or even be a profitable player, you need to take care of your mind . Not just during the game, but that includes everything away from the table, namely your problems. If you don't look for forms of self-control and mental stabilization, you can be absolutely sure that you won't make progress in the long run and your profit chart will look like a roller coaster.

For many people, meditation is a good path, but the ideal is to first have self-knowledge and really know what works for you.

That done, already knowing what your game is and how to keep your mind healthy, you are on the right path to make a living from poker, just keep improving your game until you reach your goal.

And you, what do you think about it?

In general, I think you are right. It is obvious that the mental state of the player plays an important role. Players who control their emotions well will always have better results. Meditation is certainly a good way to restore equilibrium, mental balance, but not everyone is ready for meditation. Personally, I prefer just active recreation for myself.

 

[JappsPK]

In general, I think you are right. It is obvious that the mental state of the player plays an important role. Players who control their emotions well will always have better results. Meditation is certainly a good way to restore equilibrium, mental balance, but not everyone is ready for meditation. Personally, I prefer just active recreation for myself.

You're right. Let me talk about my experience today. I was drunk e lost everything. Being emotionaly balanced isnt only about not being in a tilted state or seing the game wrongly. When ppl say emotional balance you need to stay focused in every way.

 

[Kenzie 96]

So you have a job that allows you to pay the bills & still provides you the financial where with all to provide you & your family with some of the extras that life offers.
Poker offers no sick leave, no insurance, no benefits except second hand smoke & the opportunity to hang out with degenerate gamblers. What do you do if a kid gets sick, the family vehicle breaks down, where does the coin come from that allows you to enter a tourney, pay for your expenses getting to the venue, pay for a place to stay & some of the incidentals like food & such. You best be making a damned site more than your current job afore you try this. Self employment is not easy.

 

[kitchy65]

I think its a simple question with a complex answer.

To discover, if through poker you can earn a living?

I would say you'd first have to learn everything about the game. Elements that you are required to understand. If you haven't the aptitude to comprehend all the math involved, then you are better off just reading a pro's autobiography.

It will do nothing for your game but at least you'll enjoy the read... and will garner some actual insight into what is involved.

There is no shortcut to success, they'll be no freeroll epiphany....doesn't matter if you've trained your 7th chakra to inhale through your nose, and exhale from out of your golden rivet - as you go all-in, into 8 players, with your A8o "cos that's what good players do "....you have to learn the game.

From that everything flows....and your A8 goes into the muck.

 

[Highfish]

I think BRM and emotion control.
What happens if you do not control your emotions and don´t respect BRM I saw on full tilt poker (long time ago).

The first example was Nicki Jedlicka. He played one Christmas Eve plo heads up vs Ivey. He lost most of his BR.
The second was Isildur vs Hastings. That he may have been cheated in the process is irrelevant.
Both did not know when to stop. This is also a skill that should be mastered.
Now, of course, you can say that these were two "lunatics" who never adhered to BRM anyway.

For me, nevertheless, good examples of what can happen if you do not have yourself under control.

 

[Gallarado777]

Yes, that's right, you need to solve problems in life first, if you don't have them, you can sit down at poker and start playing and earn money and don't think that tomorrow you have to pay rent you need to buy food you need money because these thoughts will prevent you from winning poker, find a job and earn a living the rest you have to spend on poker and start playing and start earning

 

[topcatbrazil]

I suppose that is a lot of resources out there for players who want to improve in their mental game. If I have to name one author it would be Jared Tendler, besides, I think this is important in other aspects of your life also..... making decisions with a cool head is very important off the table.

 

[Kinalha]

One thing I don't see a lot of regs talking about, is the reverse time to work like a normal job. Like, on the best days for you (when you go to a good final table) you spend a big part of your day on it... On Sunday for example, it's normal to see reg streamers with 12~15 hours playing... Of course you can adjust your routine, but sunday which i believe is in most cultures a day for you to be with your family or whoever you like, you will be working..

 

[DiegoRamos]

Simply - consider not making a living with Poker's LOL: Legal:

It's an excellent choice Gary lol

In general, I think you are right. It is obvious that the mental state of the player plays an important role. Players who control their emotions well will always have better results. Meditation is certainly a good way to restore equilibrium, mental balance, but not everyone is ready for meditation. Personally, I prefer just active recreation for myself.

Yes, so it is necessary an auto knowledge to know what will work for you!
I believe this works not only for poker but for life.

So you have a job that allows you to pay the bills & still provides you the financial where with all to provide you & your family with some of the extras that life offers.
Poker offers no sick leave, no insurance, no benefits except second hand smoke & the opportunity to hang out with degenerate gamblers. What do you do if a kid gets sick, the family vehicle breaks down, where does the coin come from that allows you to enter a tourney, pay for your expenses getting to the venue, pay for a place to stay & some of the incidentals like food & such. You best be making a damned site more than your current job afore you try this. Self employment is not easy.

So it's a wake-up call, to live poker, you have to win at the tables enough to cover all your current and of course, all the benefits. Otherwise, it's not worth it.

 

[DiegoRamos]

I think it's a simple question with a complex answer.

To find out if through poker you can earn a living?

I would say that you would first have to learn everything about the game. Elements you need to understand. If you don't have the aptitude to understand all the mathematics involved, it's best to read a professional's autobiography.

It won't do anything for your game, but at least you'll enjoy reading... and get some real information about what's involved.

There's no short cut to success, they won't be a freeroll epiphany... it doesn't matter if you've trained your seventh chakra to inhale through your nose, and breathe out from outside your gold rivet - how do you go all-in, for 8 players, with your A8o “because that's what good players do”... you have to learn the game.

From that, everything flows... and your A8 goes into the mud.

Okay, let's get to the points:

- I agree that you have to learn the math of the game, without the base, nothing is built. As I said, you will always have to constantly study and improve your game, otherwise you become obsolete and will NEVER be profitable for a long time.

- And yes, without mind control you won't be profitable for a long time either, I'm not only talking about situations at the tables, but if you have an extra game problem, you won't be able to absorb it and work.

In short, one action complements the other.

I think BRM is emotion control.
What happens if you don't control your emotions and don't respect the BRM that I saw on Full Tilt Poker (a long time ago).

The first example was Nicki Jedlicka. He played a Christmas Eve game against Ivey. He lost most of his BR.
The second was Isildur vs Hastings. That he may have been misled in the process is irrelevant.
Both didn't know when to stop. This is also a skill that must be mastered.
Now, of course, you can say that these were two “lunatics” who never joined BRM anyway.

For me, however, good examples of what can happen if you're not under control.

Usually, in cash, they don't put all br on the table, but this is basic, so in a way it fits the basics of the game

I suppose there are a lot of resources available for players who want to improve their mental game. If I had to name an author, it would be Jared Tendler, besides, I think this is also important in other aspects of your life... making decisions with a cool head is very important off the table.

You were perfect, everything that is essential in life.

I didn't know the author, but I was interested in the book The Mental Game Of Poker, I'm going to read it this week.

One thing I don't see a lot of regs talking about is the reverse time of working like a normal job. Like, on the best days for you (when you go to a good final table), you spend a large part of your day there... On Sunday, for example, it's normal to see streamers with 12 ~ 15 hours playing... Of course you can adjust your routine, but Sunday, which I believe is in most cultures a day for you to be with your family or whoever you want, you will be working..

It's a price to pay, and I guarantee it's not easy for family members to understand this, but over time they become understandable and adapt.

 

[Marshmalo1994]

I always thought if I was prepared to affront big downswings. I mean, like one or two months without making any profit. That could happen even to the best pro players.
Other thing to consider is if your country has a good regulation of the online poker. Otherwise it could happen that suddenly close some sites.

 

[takinitSLEAZEE]

For me it's about the limit and the fluctuation of the economy and the laws and blah, blah, blah. I think if I did hit a nice run at a card-club or state-adjacent casino I'd actually contemplate it.
I like to play poker because it's fun and nice to have a hobby that pays for itself/I can profit from. To have that kind of pressure and stress to HAVE to make it in the $ at least 65% of the time or it's tent city, is just a little too much for me, atm. I think $10K a month to the black would do it; that'd cover bills, food, insurance, and pad my roll, as well. Hit a nice tourney-win at some point and I'm a poker pro. Well, that's the would-be plan.

 

[Rahatis]

Study psychology, study strategy, study game theory, study mathematics. Study people and try to explain their behaviour in different situations not only in poker. Try to get in their shoes. Poker is a game of people played by cards not the opposite. bankroll management and anything related to poker theory doesn't even need to be mentioned.
Have an unconditional love for the game.
Play for fun. Winning is fun.

 

[Cooking]

For me the mental part is the most important part if you wanna have success as a professional poker player. There are many stories of excellent players that lost everything they won as poker players on sports bets and had to start all over again.

 

[Syltan]

In order to draw at least some conclusions, you need to play poker for at least 1 year. And only then draw conclusions, and whether you need it.

 

[DiegoRamos]

I always thought if I was prepared to affront big downswings. I mean, like one or two months without making any profit. That could happen even to the best pro players.
Other thing to consider is if your country has a good regulation of the online poker. Otherwise it could happen that suddenly close some sites.

In fact, taking the risk of not being able to play is something very dangerous if you live that way.

Are you going through something similar there in argentina?

 

[DiegoRamos]

For me it's about the limit and the fluctuation of the economy and the laws and blah, blah, blah. I think if I did hit a nice run at a card-club or state-adjacent casino I'd actually contemplate it.
I like to play poker because it's fun and nice to have a hobby that pays for itself/I can profit from. To have that kind of pressure and stress to HAVE to make it in the $ at least 65% of the time or it's tent city, is just a little too much for me, atm. I think $10K a month to the black would do it; that'd cover bills, food, insurance, and pad my roll, as well. Hit a nice tourney-win at some point and I'm a poker pro. Well, that's the would-be plan.

That's the idea, having everything financially structured and knowing what you need and how much you need. If you can hit that goal regularly, I don't see why not take a risk.

Keep in parallel with your current job and when you see a constancy fully migrate.

 

[DiegoRamos]

For me the mental part is the most important part if you wanna have success as a professional poker player. There are many stories of excellent players that lost everything they won as poker players on sports bets and had to start all over again.

I fully agree. Today I am aware that if you don't have a solid emotional structure, you won't get anywhere.

 

[istbno]

Mental game is 90% of success

 

[Dailon Arroyo Blandon]

Once you manage to be consistent in your game and manage to make a profit at the end of each month... the biggest challenge will be to face those moments in which we do not manage to earn money in a specific month... since that could happen... That is where the real difference between professional players and other players is.

 

[RustyRed83]

The truth of the matter, is. The chances of becoming and being a profitable poker player in the long run are slim. So i believe for the majority of players becoming pro is not possible.

 

[valetgll]

I will definitely not be able to make money on poker. I do not have the level of knowledge and opportunities to be a poker professional. That's why I don't bother with the difficulties associated with the player, but just play freerolls for pocket money.