Undeniable explanation: Cash games are superior to Tournaments

[DougPkrMonsta]

Hmm, ok! Well many people play sit-n-go tournaments professionally as well...

It sounds like you have very limited experience with tournaments if you think I was referring to a SNG.

Try some MTT's, there's no feeling like beating 7,000 players and winning $8K for your $11.

Or not, and best of luck with your cash games.

 

[freestocks]

I prefer tournaments. But, I can leave a cash game anytime and do other things.

 

[Rational Madman]

Hmm, ok! Well many people play sit-n-go tournaments professionally as well...

It sounds like you have very limited experience with tournaments if you think I was referring to a SNG.

Try some MTT's, there's no feeling like beating 7,000 players and winning $8K for your $11.

Or not, and best of luck with your cash games.

LOL that will rarely ever happen, stop pretending. You basically waste 10 hours playing that game praying that in the all-in situations yoru hand outdraws theirs,

 

[DougPkrMonsta]

Rare eh? When's the last time you won 800 times your buyin at a cash game? Because I have done it on back to back days before while playing tournaments.

Deep runs are more common than you might think for those who take the time to learn the strategy and don't dismiss the idea outright. Try watching Tonka or bparis on Twitch sometime if you don't believe me.

How about sitting at a cash game table for hours hoping you are on the right side of a deep-stacked cooler that will determine how your session goes that day? Or finally getting that cooler and losing to a two outer for your whole stack.

That doesn't sound better than having to navigate a short stack and win a few coinflips to win some money, but that's just me.

In tournaments you can lose some hands and not necessarily lose money, so you gain experience quickly and cheaply compared to cash games. The more you play the better you will get and the more money you can make.

It's all personal taste really and acting like there is a clearly better choice is silly.

 

[Rational Madman]

Rare eh? When's the last time you won 800 times your buyin at a cash game? Because I have done it on back to back days before while playing tournaments.

Deep runs are more common than you might think for those who take the time to learn the strategy and don't dismiss the idea outright. Try watching Tonka or bparis on Twitch sometime if you don't believe me.

How about sitting at a cash game table for hours hoping you are on the right side of a deep-stacked cooler that will determine how your session goes that day? Or finally getting that cooler and losing to a two outer for your whole stack.

That doesn't sound better than having to navigate a short stack and win a few coinflips to win some money, but that's just me.

In tournaments you can lose some hands and not necessarily lose money, so you gain experience quickly and cheaply compared to cash games. The more you play the better you will get and the more money you can make.

It's all personal taste really and acting like there is a clearly better choice is silly.

When I enter coolers I am ALWAYS on the upper hand because I fold if they raise something too big that I wouldn't want to lose unless I have either the nuts or (if they appear loose-ish) one below the nuts.

For instance if 7 8 9 is there and they hard-push and I have 56, I fold. You can laugh at me for being this tight but I never, I mean never, have a losing session if it lasts more than 9 minutes.

The only way I've ever lost significantly is with full house into 4-kind cooler.

 

[Jblocher1]

When I enter coolers I am ALWAYS on the upper hand because I fold if they raise something too big that I wouldn't want to lose unless I have either the nuts or (if they appear loose-ish) one below the nuts.

For instance if 7 8 9 is there and they hard-push and I have 56, I fold. You can laugh at me for being this tight but I never, I mean never, have a losing session if it lasts more than 9 minutes.

The only way I've ever lost significantly is with full house into 4-kind cooler.

Good luck making money folding near nuts because u are afraid of 610/10J. The whole point of a cooler is that it's unavoidable if you play the hand optimally and you CANNOT and I repeat, CANNOT always be on the good side of a cooler if you are playing anything even remotely close to good poker. I'm sorry but that's the truth.

"I never get coolered because I'm a super nit who gets it in only with the nuttiest nuts" are the words of someone who doesn't have the experience to know just how exploitable that strategy is.

 

[Rational Madman]

Good luck making money folding near nuts because u are afraid of 610/10J. The whole point of a cooler is that it's unavoidable if you play the hand optimally and you CANNOT and I repeat, CANNOT always be on the good side of a cooler if you are playing anything even remotely close to good poker. I'm sorry but that's the truth.

"I never get coolered because I'm a super nit who gets it in only with the nuttiest nuts" are the words of someone who doesn't have the experience to know just how exploitable that strategy is.

I profit by consistently betting small and only entering hands where there is reasonably little at stake. I always win the big bets when and if the situations arise where I'm damn sure the other person has a straight into my flush etc. You have no idea how good I am because you don't understand what smallballing is you tournament addict.

 

[Jblocher1]

I profit by consistently betting small and only entering hands where there is reasonably little at stake. I always win the big bets when and if the situations arise where I'm damn sure the other person has a straight into my flush etc. You have no idea how good I am because you don't understand what smallballing is you tournament addict.

Good players just won't pay you off in big spots once they peg u as the nittiest nit in all the land sir. What stakes do u play online?

 

[Rational Madman]

Good luck making money folding near nuts because u are afraid of 610/10J. The whole point of a cooler is that it's unavoidable if you play the hand optimally and you CANNOT and I repeat, CANNOT always be on the good side of a cooler if you are playing anything even remotely close to good poker. I'm sorry but that's the truth.

"I never get coolered because I'm a super nit who gets it in only with the nuttiest nuts" are the words of someone who doesn't have the experience to know just how exploitable that strategy is.

Out of interest, if they are all-inning with three of a kind or a flush-draw are you gonna happily risk that? Why? This isn't a tournament lol, you don't need to lose money in big chunks to gain it, you can smallball 100% of the time if you want but if you wanna make a decent amount trap them when you know you'd outdrawn them (and only after you are sure).

 

[Rational Madman]

Good players just won't pay you off in big spots once they peg u as the nittiest nit in all the land sir. What stakes do u play online?

But they do, because I never make it clear what I have I raise just as much for three of a kind as 2 pair etc. They can never peg me down and will raise as I usually fold to big bets and since that's my style when I have the nuts it's so easy to trap them.

 

[Jblocher1]

But they do, because I never make it clear what I have I raise just as much for three of a kind as 2 pair etc. They can never peg me down and will raise as I usually fold to big bets and since that's my style when I have the nuts it's so easy to trap them.

What stakes do u play online? Also, just read your last sentence here man. Why would you ever fold to a big bet when you are nutted? You want to get money in with the nuts

 

[mirigata]

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[Fastone2]

I like the tournaments.... In fact, the more players and payouts make it more fun.... Sometimes, the free roll tournaments that I play, have two thousands entries. Then the rebuys an add on, make it more difficult to win....
Cash games are more fun with basically the same table of friends.... Not really into cash games.... Tourneys are my favorite way to pass my poker time....

 

[Hoztil3]

I think players in a tournament play more loose than a cash game because of the one time buy-in required. If there is more money to be lost in a cash game then people tend not to play those junk hands (such as 46 off or say 37 suited) and take more of a risk getting felted.

 

[Rational Madman]

I'm saying I trap them with it

 

[Jblocher1]

I'm saying I trap them with it

You trap them by folding to big bets with the nuts?

 

[Rational Madman]

You trap them by folding to big bets with the nuts?

If they are big enough and the nuts aren't close enough to what I have I fold. I have earned 70% of the MAXIMUM buyin in one hand with my outplays and that happens once per table every 12 mins on average (I two or three table). I am almost always the one coolering the other.

 

[trent32la]

Do U have any graphs or Hand Histories U could show us? It would be much appreciated and I feel I could learn a lot from your hand histories as I am a cash game fish.

 

[Rational Madman]

How do you find a graph of that?

 

[kozong]

How do you find a graph of that?

by using poker tracking and analysis software

 

[Rational Madman]

My poker is my business not yours.

 

[kozong]

but we wanna learn more about your poker
please please pleeeeeeeeese :icon_boun

 

[Jblocher1]

My poker is my business not yours.

Ah yes, I forgot that "my poker is my business not yours" is a reasonable motto for anyone who would be on a poker forum lmao [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

 

[Rational Madman]

In 2 months or so, I'll consider posting the 2 months. I only got very good 3 weeks ago and am still perfecting my table image (I am good at reading others but not brilliant at seeing how they are reading me yet).

My profits will be far more consistent and flawless on a graph when and if I've mastered this final aspect of my gameplay. Thanks for your consideration.

 

[Jblocher1]

In 2 months or so, I'll consider posting the 2 months. I only got very good 3 weeks ago and am still perfecting my table image (I am good at reading others but not brilliant at seeing how they are reading me yet).

My profits will be far more consistent and flawless on a graph when and if I've mastered this final aspect of my gameplay. Thanks for your consideration.

You got good three weeks ago and already know for certain that what u figured out is so nuanced and effective that it proves cash games are always more profitable than tournaments?