So this shutdown thing? Maybe not so bad.

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besides playing the occasional home game at my house with a few friends, I never played live poker at a casino, looks like I'm going to start though, if I can ever save up enough cash for my buy in and gas to get there of course, I only have to go about 45 miles to get to one, it could be worse.
 
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thats not what im asking....i'm asking to see or hear of people experiencing multi-year LIVE downswings....but theres a problem with that, because they DONT HAPPEN, no matter how much math the nerds try to put in front of us, the simple fact that its mathematically possible for something to happen doesnt mean it SHOULD be acceptable when it does happen....and happens frequently.

so all the pros never have live downswings yet they hop online and magically 100k downswings happen to them? anyways theres no point, you can't open peoples eyes if they are trying to keep them shut.

Why i the world would you ever hear about or see a multi year live downswing? A person going through such an event isn't likely to get online and tell us about it. Live poker results aren't tracked PTR style. Most likely the person would quit long before such a streak ended if he or she were playing for decent stakes.

The advantage (one of many) of online play is that such a streak could be gotten through in a month or so instead of a couple of years.

Also I would question your statement above that pros never have live downswings.

Also, what are people keeping their eyes shut about?
 
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I'm so pumped for Foxwoods and Mohegan. Sadly, I am only 20 (less than six months left!).
Of course you only have to be 18 in the UK. Mind you, we still have online poker anyway, so B&M is probably less important to us.
anyways theres no point, you can't open peoples eyes if they are trying to keep them shut.
I only see one person with their eyes shut! :p
 
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Yep - we are stuck alright - I am north of Atlanta. Even going to Biloxi is not worth it - we are better off taking a cheap flight to Vegas where there are loads of games to choose from.

They have tournaments in Cherokee now - but the structure is not good and rooms at the casino are outrageous. (That is if you can get one - they have a room available only one weekend between now and Aug and it is over $400 a night). Again - cheaper to fly to Vegas.

And of course not many people can do that often. I probably go as much as anyone can - every few months. But spending 4-5 weeks worth of time in Vegas every year does not come close to replacing my online poker - and I was going to Vegas already anyway.


I'm north of atlanta too, in Duluth but you guys probably think im a rigtard now for my opinions in this thread even though im actually a decent winning player online :)
 
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I'm north of atlanta too, in Duluth but you guys probably think im a rigtard now for my opinions in this thread even though im actually a decent winning player online :)

graphs plz
 
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Some think that players in a Casino are naturally going to be better than online players. However, this is not always true.
Not always true?? How about rarely almost never true. Live players in my area are soooooo bad that it's hard to keep your jaw from dropping onto the table.
wtg 4dogs... keep crushing them!
 
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1) Both Sun and Woods are rake now, no more time charge.
2) Rake at both is $1 per $10 in the pot, up to a cap of $4. Additionally, at FW when the pot hits $40 (maaaaaybe $20) an additional dollar is raked into the bad beat jackpot at 1/2NL, and at the same increment an extra dollar is raked for the High Hand Jackpot at the Sun when its on (which is the majority of the time, its on for a few hours, paid out, off for an hour, on for another few, and so on).
3) Both are no flop no drop.
4) Those of you going live PLEASE don't talk poker at the table and tell people how to play/berate bad play/do a damn thing other than smile at the fact that you're playing against absurdly soft competition.
5) Losing years probably happen, but really play level is so lolterrible that I wouldn't doubt that massive B/E stretches that are common online work out to be more like massive meh stretches live, for the some of the best in the game, obviously if you're scraping by it's the same.
 
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so they seize the domain names , sieze the money ,aresset some poeple ,shut down the sites . going to find a way to tax players for there winning so what defination of not so bad you talking about
 
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so they seize the domain names , sieze the money ,aresset some poeple ,shut down the sites . going to find a way to tax players for there winning so what defination of not so bad you talking about
domain names released, money released, people who were arrested committed crimes and who knows if they'll ever even be tried, sites only barred US action not shut down, and you've been supposed to pay taxes all along so if you get stuck there thats your bad.
Only real downside is that we don't have our major sites available to us, which majorly sucks, but I'd say there is a fair chance that matters are handled fairly quickly to get a sanctioned place up and running, or someone rises to fill the hole of supply.
 
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domain names released, money released, people who were arrested committed crimes and who knows if they'll ever even be tried, sites only barred US action not shut down, and you've been supposed to pay taxes all along so if you get stuck there thats your bad.
Only real downside is that we don't have our major sites available to us, which majorly sucks, but I'd say there is a fair chance that matters are handled fairly quickly to get a sanctioned place up and running, or someone rises to fill the hole of supply.
I had to lol @ this ^ (only real downside.. LOL)
 
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Week 2 at the Sun. Wish me luck. I'll post updates on Twitter if anyone's interested. @deadinaditch
 
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I had to lol @ this ^ (only real downside.. LOL)
Don't get me wrong, sucks, hard, I lost part of my income/am forced to play 30 hands an hour, but just had to bring the histrionics down a few notches. We thought the sky was falling, instead there has been a disruption in service.
 
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Done for the night. Finished up $500 after going down $150 in the first hour. Pretty tapped out. Another quit while I'm ahead session for me.
 
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Nice. I had to end it up 290 over at FW tonight. Lost a $450 pot after we got it in on the turn with AQ for TPTK vs JJ that 3bet shipped over me on the turn as 2nd pair. River J. Hooray for running like crap and still crushing.
 
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Done for the night. Finished up $500 after going down $150 in the first hour. Pretty tapped out. Another quit while I'm ahead session for me.

I think your 4 dogs have spycam fleas........;)
 
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I think your 4 dogs have spycam fleas........;)
:) True but my fleas job is made all that much easier when half the people at the table basically anounce their hand with bet sizing tells, reaching for chips, doing pot odds calculations out loud and in some cases even anouncing their hand. " I have a big pair but I know you have a flush."
 
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I am going to go play live.. Being with out poker is killing me. I have no idea if my skills will be good enough.
 
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Minimal stakes live are equivalent to mid stakes online. Only downside is it takes forever and you can only play one table at once. Oh sna smoking is illegal in public places :(
 
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BUUUUUT the play level is equivalent to the microest of the micros.
 
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