The live VS online level of opponent play : What makes?

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What stakes have you been playing online and what sort of BRM have you been using?


Honestly there are a ton of reasons why online is harder than live, but I'll let other members get into that since I'm on my phone right now.
 
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Live $1/$2 or $1/$3 = 5NL online
Live $3/$5 = 10NL online

Simple reason is because only lowest stake available live is $1/$2 while the lowest stake available online is 2NL and 5NL.

Online players get dealt way more hands than live players. Online players can accelerate their experience faster than live players.
 
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Live $1/$2 or $1/$3 = 5NL online
Live $3/$5 = 10NL online

Simple reason is because only lowest stake available live is $1/$2 while the lowest stake available online is 2NL and 5NL.

Online players get dealt way more hands than live players. Online players can accelerate their experience faster than live players.


That is just ridiculous.

2/5 live is not the same as 10NL online... not even close.

Anything under 50 NL online is a joke...

Seriously I think you get the same level of play at .50-1 as 2-5... you can't just go by the fact of the lowest being offered vs. online.

So is 5-10 live 25 NL... obv not... but its the third highest up so it must be by your chart? No.

1-2 live has a very wide spread of players. The local clubs around my area are WAYYYYY tougher than games at most casinos. It just depends on the crowd.
 
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I've said this elsewhere, but $1-2 live is imho about the level of online 5NL, and 10NL. 2NL online can play like 1-2 too, so to me, it's a micro comparison up to 10NL. Venue to venue, city to city, country to country will vary a little. Perhaps 2-5 plays like 25NL or 50NL, but I'm not really familiar with 2-5.

In all seriousness, live 1-2 can present you with a tough table, but very often the games are a lot softer than online, and passive limping preflop fish are everywhere.

Celtic_Green, as a couple people have pointed out, online grinders who multi-table micro stakes can have massive hand volume experience and are very often tougher to beat than live 1/2 players. Their value range is more disciplined, they patiently set mine to crush over pairs, they are highly skilled in drawing with correct odds, they are experienced in laying down when beat or when implied odds are poor. The list goes on.

Learn how to beat 5NL or 10NL and your live game will improve. The best of these opponents are not your city's finest, they are the world's finest, so absorb what you see from some of their play.
 
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Different reason to support both sides of the argument, but mostly, like lots of things, the degree of difficulty varies with play style and preferences.
One for online can be that if playing cash games, when the table makeup is undesirable, it is easier to just look for other tables to play, not so easy at live games, where switching tables is not so much up to you.
 
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That is just ridiculous.

2/5 live is not the same as 10NL online... not even close.

Anything under 50 NL online is a joke...

Seriously I think you get the same level of play at .50-1 as 2-5... you can't just go by the fact of the lowest being offered vs. online.

So is 5-10 live 25 NL... obv not... but its the third highest up so it must be by your chart? No.

1-2 live has a very wide spread of players. The local clubs around my area are WAYYYYY tougher than games at most casinos. It just depends on the crowd.

No debate on that part where it depends on the crowd. I was basing it on local southern california casinos that are non-Indian casinos. It's a donk county. I don't know where you're from but come to places like Hollywood Park, Commerce, Larry Flynts, Normandie. Bunch of horrible players here. No joke.

I've been to home games that play 50NL live and their games are actually tough to beat because it's filled with good players. But not everyone has access to home games that I go to. I used local casinos in LA as my rubric. But of course, everywhere is different for $3/$5. $3/$5 live is roughly equivalent to 10NL online.
 
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Online is much much harder, it's also more profitable however nothing beats the thrill of live poker.

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Coming from playing live and goin to play online was very frustrating for me ... In the first the blind levels of a live tournament rarely do you see an all in preflop compared to people shooting out left and right ... I persnally do not respect the bets the same online as i would in real life
 
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