Live poker question

[Mr.Flushee]

So i played some Live poker the other day only at a Casino for the 2nd time in my life
I was playing $1-$2 with a min buyin of $100 max $200. The table was super agressive so i waited for my spot and got pocket Qs and made a raise and 3 people call. Flop comes J-10-3 and i was 1st to act so i pop in the normal raise at the table of $20. 2 guys insta fold but the guy beside me was still thinking about what to do. So the guy right beside me thought about it 4 a lil while longer and said well i guess i have to fold now.
Is there anything i could have done about this because 2 people acted when it wasnt there turn?? Or is just bad poker ettiquite and im S.O.L?

 

[Juniorsdaddy]

At a casino, it is typically the dealer's responsibility to make sure that everyone is playing as they should. You could mention something, but the dealer should have noted it. If it were to happen again, I am sure the dealer would say something to them.

However, since everyone folded, there really isn't much to do. You won the pot, and that is really all that matters.

 

[PokerPete]

Is there anything i could have done about this because 2 people acted when it wasnt there turn??

Develop a nasty "I'magonnakillyou,youf***ingidiot" look and glare at them when they act out of turn. After the hand, ask the dealer very politely about house policy on acting out of turn...other than that I believe you are S.O.L

 

[diamond_06_06]

Whats S.O.L?

 

[PokerPete]

Whats S.O.L?

Sh** Outta Luck

 

[Mr.Flushee]

Thanks for the help folks,

I was just a lil dissopointed cause i feel like i couldve gotten more money off of that guy.

They guy who thinking of making the call was kind enough of flashing one card which was a 10

 

[Reducto]

People act out of turn a lot especially in small stakes. The dealer should have asked them to wait until their turn, but that wouldn't have affected this hand because it happened so fast. If someone does it a lot they can get a warning and potentially a penalty of some sort but I've never seen it come to that. It's just something you have to deal with. Try not to react to it because that advertises to the whole table that you had a big hand and may help them to pick up a tell.

Be happy you got 3 people to call your preflop raise and took it down while you were ahead. You were well ahead but out of position against someone with outs.

 

[eveslow]

That gets real frustrating. I mentioned to a dealer that one guy kept doing it to me at a charitable, and did nothing for me. It ruins the table play.

 

[GrisGrisAA]

That gets real frustrating. I mentioned to a dealer that one guy kept doing it to me at a charitable, and did nothing for me. It ruins the table play.

Weird that nothing is done when someone keeps doing it. Change tables or call the floor if the dealer refuses to do their job.

 

[glworden]

You really gotta watch out for this kind of thing. If it's happening with some frequency with the same three players, it could be a form of collusion. You raise, someone in the team might be strong enough to take you on but those to act later in the hand signal their weakness to their partner by folding out of turn. If he's strong enough, he's their last stand, but this time he's not, so you win.

Another form of collusion is two or three players betting up the pot, with you in the middle, making it very hard for you to see a showdown. Whiplash.

This might sound like paranoia, but it does happen, and you have to be wary especially if you're a new face in a local casino. In Michigan, there was a band of locals doing this kind of play in the Manistee casino. Other players complained, the house did nothing. Now that cardroom is out of business. Some dealers and even some poker managers don't recognize that it's in their interest to police this kind of thing. In fact, they might even give a wink and a nod to the locals who come back every night to fleece the tourists - not through good play, mind you, but through this type of collusion.

In your case, it's probable that the two guys just made a mistake. But always watch out for suspicious patterns of play.
GtW

PS, I think you were playing $1/$2 No Limit, right? That's important info in describing the situation. It helps if you can give pot sizes and things likes that. Depending on how big your PF raise was and how big the pot was, your Post-flop raise might have been too big and killed the action. But you won the hand, so congrats. Win the session?

 

[Roller]

I would have put my hands up and gave a puzzled look at that dealer.
Not making a scene and not over exaggerating the mannerism.

That way the dealer and all the players would know your not to happy with that kinda play

Better Luck next time.

 

[WEC]

After you play a while

You will be happy when 3 preflop callers (to your QQ) in a NL ring game all fold on a flop of J-10-3, and dont bust you off right on the flop, or catch you by chasing something on the turn or river :smile:

 

[OzExorcist]

I would have put my hands up and gave a puzzled look at that dealer.

You've gotta be really careful with that - giving any kind of reaction while the hand is still being played could just give your opponent information.

The damage has been done as soon as the players have acted, and unfortunately there's really nothing the dealer can do to 1: stop people doing stupid things before they do them or 2: fix it for that hand. Certainly they should be telling the player to make sure they act in turn, and call the floor to impose a penalty if need be. But they can't undo the damage done in that specific hand.

So sadly yes, OP is effectively SOL in that situation.

 

[arbasketball]

The guys in my local game play very loose and rather passive, just as you described. Even when I play only quality starting hands I very often find myself in situations where I wonder if one of the others made an incredible “hit” to virtually unpredictable starting hands. Say J7s made 2 pair over my KK; gutshots kill my sets on the river; you name it. Coming from LHE I am not used to losing BIG in just one hand. So now I often wonder if I should be making large bets on the flop/river to cut their odds while I might be running into better (flopped) hands and not know it until it’s too late. I think I know a scary flop when I see it, but with these loose guys “every” flop might have hit them.
I know that I play way better starting hands, so my current weak-tight style makes me fold a lot of hands (out of fear) that actually would have won at the end. Unfortunately many times when I switch from weak to fearless I run into these crazy hands.

 

[Yirlastcall]

what i would have done is ask the dealer, to remind them to make sure they play thier turn, because acting out of turn , can tell alot about eachother's hands, and make the pot smaller then what it should be

 

[chefjimmy]

be grateful

any time your in a casino and see rules of etiquette being disreguarded,you can know your at a table of nonregulars,any player who has spent anytime in a casino is well aware of these basic rules and uses them to his advantage...looking for player tells ect....but most of all it is the tell...it signifys to you these are tourist...they are not at home there or in any casino,it is the common tell that the shark looks for...that your simply out of your element...its not your job to correct the situation,just exploit it....know that your not the guppie in the shark tank and play accordingly.

 

[OzExorcist]

acting out of turn , can tell alot about eachother's hands, and make the pot smaller then what it should be

So can getting flustered and making a scene about it while the hand's still going on - so don't be either of those people. Either say nothing and let the dealer handle it (most will when they feel it's appropriate, BTW) or wait until after the hand to say something.