(live game) Had to show mucked cards

[WVHillbilly]

That's great that casinos are getting rid of it. I've never been in any situation where I thought it needed to be used although I have seen a few douchebags do it.

 

[tenbob]

Anytime I've been asked in my local cardroom i call for the floor, there is one reg that is renowned for it. He dosnt ask me anymore.

Its a really really good way to get rid of any fish thats there for a good time and a gambol,

 

[JusSumguy]

Just don't let your obsession with "man things" get in the way of your poker.

Seriously. You have to realize verbally putting someone in their place is inferior to taking their money. You make the latter harder if you major on the prior.

Of course not. I like to break things up. Rather than play more and crappier hands when I get board, I bug easy targets,
In essence, I'm that douchebag that VW albertein) hates so much. And I wear this moniker with pride.


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[Debi]

This thread needs to only address the thread topic or I will close it.

 

[WEC]

You should ask for a floor clarification.

In many casinos, IWTSTH (I want to see the hand) is only allowed to prevent collusion. There are some casinos that have outright banned IWTSTH.

With all due respect...

In some casinos, IWTSTH (I want to see the hand) is only allowed to prevent collusion. There are very few casinos that have outright banned IWTSTH.

*Based on my experiences, In general IWTSTH is fully functional at the majority of card rooms in the United States. Anyone at the table can request to see the cards of another player. Las Vegas seems to be the leading city to have limited IWTSTH to suspected collusion and some outright ban.

Now, most casinos will put a stop to IWTSTH if they see a particular player abusing the privilege. Wynn, Mirage, Harrahs, Venetian, Mandalay Bay are the places in Las Vegas that allows IWTSTH only if you can explain to the floorman why you suspect collusion (same with Foxwoods). There are several rooms that only allows the opponent in the hand to request IWTSTH (Caesar's Palace LV, Ballys LV). Poker rooms in Jacksonville, Delaware Park, Aria LV, Bellagio, Flamingo have completely revoked IWTSTH. Please feel free to correct me if anyone feels they do not see it in an abundance of card rooms.

All Los Angeles rooms allow IWTSTH. All San Diego rooms allow IWTSTH. All SF Area rooms allow IWTSTH. All Atlantic City Rooms allow IWTSTH. New mexico Rooms allow IWTSTH. Oklahoma rooms allow IWTSTH. All Colorado rooms allow IWTSTH by State Law I believe. All Missouri rooms I have played at allow IWTSTH. All Minnesota rooms I have played at allow IWTSTH. All Arizona rooms allow IWTSTH.

There are some knowledgeable people in poker who feel that research shows players have always been entitled to know the contents of live hands at showdown.


*Of course, I do not know the rules of every card room in the US, but am only commenting on my experience and what I have heard or been told. Although I have vast experience playing cards across the US, especially in the Western/Central US.

 

[baudib1]

Certainly fair point. It is universally regarded as bad etiquette however.

 

[WEC]

Certainly fair point. It is universally regarded as bad etiquette however.

Very BAD. Even I get extremely pissed if someone asks to see the hand, then I really paint a target on that persons back on a high level attempt to bust them with all my powers