How Is Rake/Tip Handled In A Real Casino

[AugustStorm]

Does this mean for each table that you are at or just the one you start at?

For a tournament, you would tip at the end of the tournament. So if its a single table tourney, you probably had only 1 or 2 dealers that you can tip directly. If its a multi-table or multi-day event, then you've probably had several dealers all splitting a pool of tips. For this, you tip when u get knocked out/paid out, or when the tourney ends if you make it that far. You can just toss part of your payout back to the clerk for the dealers.

 

[OzExorcist]

I am in disbelief, there is a 35 hand per hour minimum requirement to deal at my casino. And I can't imagine not being able to accept tips. No wonder why the dealers there don't move fast, there's no insentive to if they're making just a flat rate per hour, whether they deal 1 hand or 100 :-/

Not sure what limits are spread there, but if players are moving that slow, then there is far too much distraction or talking by the dealer, unless the whole table is just clueless, making a speech with every action & tanking for every hand... They're not ALL monsters, and a table of strong players should be able to cruise thru hands without even seeing a river most of the time. Here's a tip: only a fish can see every river.

Yea, if its moving that slow & I'm getting stiffed, I'd definitely purposely "throw" a whole half hour in the box. I only have 30 mins on the table so if I don't make at least $5 in the first 5 mins, then I already have spent almost a quarter of my time there with basically nothing to show for it. And its not only to screw the 1 player, like I said, that 1 player usually ends up influencing others not to tip, either by example or by feeling the need to explain the logic of why he's so cheap to the entire table.. So, that table ends up becoming a scrap, move onto the next.

You know, I just find the no tipping policy to be BS, I can't tell you how many times I get thrown a buck or 2 just for having a warm smile, or reminding a player to sign in for comp points, or for not taking offense when a player compliments the rack in my shirt instead of the rack in the table, I mean thats the very essence of tipping, not just some robotic dollar at the completion of each hand, hell, thats what the rake is LOL

As a matter of fact, I don't see how the casino employs these dealers with no minimum standard of hands per hour to obide by. The casino is loosing money! More hands per hour = more rake per hour... Yea, its sounding more & more like you have never dealt, just coming up with how you think it works...

Dealers aren't allowed to accept tips by law here, in part because the government think it increases the risk of collusion between dealers and players. That's obviously more of a potential issue with table games than it is with poker, but everyone gets lumped in together. And also in part because we don't really have a tipping culture here - we just believe in paying people properly in the first place.

And I've gotta reiterate: the games aren't slow because the dealers are slow, or spending too much time talking to the players or anything. It's all about the players.

The casino does have hands per hour targets, poker dealers are supposed to aim for 30-40 hands/hour. That said, I've also heard floor managers tell players they can expect "at least 20" hands per hour so they're not super-strict on enforcing that - again, because they acknowledge that it's the players that have the biggest influence. Especially on a Friday or Saturday night when there's a heap of drunk recreational players in the room. Dealing to a half-full table of regs on a Tuesday afternoon might be a different matter. My personal experience as a player there is if you're getting 25+ hands/hr, you're doing pretty well.

Table games are a different matter obviously: in an hour they expect dealers to churn out 90+ hands of blackjack, 60+ spins on roulette, 80+ hands on baccarat, and that's much more closely monitored and enforced.

As far as the rake goes, rates are crazy high here because it's the only casino in town and they can basically charge what they like. $1/$2 was 10% capped at $20 at one point. At other points they've charged time and raked every pot.

 

[AugustStorm]

Oh. My. Gawd.

That sucks. Poker should never be clumped together with other carnival games. Its just a completely different animal, requiring strategy & manipulation to play the players, instead of playing odds.
It actually used to work that way here, where tips were pooled from every game of every limit (except Bingo lol) but an uprising started & poker was separated from the pooling, resulting in good poker dealers making much more money & bad ones were weeded out. The carnie dealers kept their pool, loosing about $3 per hour from the poker contribution.
But that rake! I've never seen more than $5max/per hand at casino (actually $7 including extra bucks pulled for high hand & bad beat jackpots), or time starting at $5 per half hour for games starting with min $500 buyins.....
Homegames however charge the likes of a $25 chip per hand, providing the livest illegal action around. Thats the kind of thing I would promote there, hell I'm happy with a $10 max rake... hmm...
I wonder how far the drive is from Boston....

 

[OzExorcist]

It'd be a pretty long drive - I'm in Australia.

 

[bradfordzilla]

the casino where i play rakes $1 for every $20 in the pot, $5 is the maximum that they will take per pot. win a hand, tip the dealer a dollar.