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chikoAA
Rising Star
Bronze Level
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Gypsy
Enthusiast
Silver Level
I try to re-focus on the "Long Term" and not the "Short Term."
I immedietly go back to review the Session I played on Holdem Mgr. and go over my "LeakBuster" reviews and Grading. There are days that are just tough days and variance is tough. Think about it. If you played your best and review your hands and see you were coolered or whatever , then chalk it up to a tough day. Review every leaks and also review the correct decisions you made which some times don't result in winning out comes!
Transfer your focus and give yourself a break, we are all learning.
Gypsy
I immedietly go back to review the Session I played on Holdem Mgr. and go over my "LeakBuster" reviews and Grading. There are days that are just tough days and variance is tough. Think about it. If you played your best and review your hands and see you were coolered or whatever , then chalk it up to a tough day. Review every leaks and also review the correct decisions you made which some times don't result in winning out comes!
Transfer your focus and give yourself a break, we are all learning.
Gypsy
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FearlessPhil
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Gypsy is on the right track. You need to analyze the session and understand what caused you to go on tilt. Hint: it's usually not just bad cards.
Your goal should be to reduce the incidence of tilts and to mitigate the impact of it once you go on tilt. There will be usually be signs of impending tilt before you actually go over the edge. Learn to recognize them and see if you can head it off.
Your goal should be to reduce the incidence of tilts and to mitigate the impact of it once you go on tilt. There will be usually be signs of impending tilt before you actually go over the edge. Learn to recognize them and see if you can head it off.
cwdignus
Carpe diem
Loyaler
there are no bad times or bad beat
assuming that all hands have a chance (there are no bad times or bad beat ) just wrong attitude at the wrong time .... of course when you have a lot of skill is not easy to lose (it's not my case 'm just a student)
assuming that all hands have a chance (there are no bad times or bad beat ) just wrong attitude at the wrong time .... of course when you have a lot of skill is not easy to lose (it's not my case 'm just a student)
MoeJurphy
Legend
Silver Level
It's better to sign off for an hour than play another hour and possibly loose more.
Sitting out for a break is probably the best thing for me when I start to get on tilt, scrolling around CC threads and learning some new things or even reading about other people tilting seems to cheer me up (this is how i ended up on this thread)
Sitting out for a break is probably the best thing for me when I start to get on tilt, scrolling around CC threads and learning some new things or even reading about other people tilting seems to cheer me up (this is how i ended up on this thread)
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Gypsy
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Don't tilt your Bankroll and SPEW!
One last thing I would like to add is other than reviewing your hand histories that Bank Roll mgt. is super important.
For now, I have a rule that if I lose 1 full Buy-In I stop for the day! (I play everyday on two sites) This really helps to remove myself from a cooler or perhaps a stupid mistake that I made and helps my bankroll from not chasing losses!
Due to being a USA player I don't have many choices for sites to play on. I play two sites nearly everyday. So, if I lose a full buy in on one then I go to the other site and start my next Session but the 1 Full Buy in rule always applies!
I do this for discipline and to also to learn to roll with the punches. Some days are just TOUGH days and on one site you get paid off for playing the best that you are able and then on the other site you have a horrible day. Card dead! Hands not Connecting! Suck Outs! Coolers!
Many times though, I especially analyze what could I have done regarding my bet sizing? Not aggressive enough?, too aggressive? The other players Stats! TAG? LAG? ROCK? NIT? Where could I have prevented a chip spew? Why did I stay or not stay in a Hand? Was I playing the player or getting robotic?
When you do this you can make yourself a better player and cut yourself a break by knowing that you are learning and trying to apply your skills with your personal best.
I also review all of my hands from the previous day before I start my new day so that I can hopefully implement what I am learning successfully!
My 1 Buy in Rule suits me for now as I am learning the Game. Many who are seasoned Veterans of course don't do that but I have noticed that all of them have a set of rules and when they end a session is based on personal preference.
I hope this helps!
Don't chase your losses when you are pissed! Manage your Bankroll! Give yourself a Break!
I think Daniel Negreanu said that the day you think you know everything that you know nothing and that Poker is always evolving.
--Gypsy Chick
One last thing I would like to add is other than reviewing your hand histories that Bank Roll mgt. is super important.
For now, I have a rule that if I lose 1 full Buy-In I stop for the day! (I play everyday on two sites) This really helps to remove myself from a cooler or perhaps a stupid mistake that I made and helps my bankroll from not chasing losses!
Due to being a USA player I don't have many choices for sites to play on. I play two sites nearly everyday. So, if I lose a full buy in on one then I go to the other site and start my next Session but the 1 Full Buy in rule always applies!
I do this for discipline and to also to learn to roll with the punches. Some days are just TOUGH days and on one site you get paid off for playing the best that you are able and then on the other site you have a horrible day. Card dead! Hands not Connecting! Suck Outs! Coolers!
Many times though, I especially analyze what could I have done regarding my bet sizing? Not aggressive enough?, too aggressive? The other players Stats! TAG? LAG? ROCK? NIT? Where could I have prevented a chip spew? Why did I stay or not stay in a Hand? Was I playing the player or getting robotic?
When you do this you can make yourself a better player and cut yourself a break by knowing that you are learning and trying to apply your skills with your personal best.
I also review all of my hands from the previous day before I start my new day so that I can hopefully implement what I am learning successfully!
My 1 Buy in Rule suits me for now as I am learning the Game. Many who are seasoned Veterans of course don't do that but I have noticed that all of them have a set of rules and when they end a session is based on personal preference.
I hope this helps!
Don't chase your losses when you are pissed! Manage your Bankroll! Give yourself a Break!
I think Daniel Negreanu said that the day you think you know everything that you know nothing and that Poker is always evolving.
--Gypsy Chick
_xrolex_90
Visionary
Silver Level
I try to switch to something more positive and somehow escape from poker when luck is not on my side.Usually, I am calling friends and we go to the sport stadium.There I drove all the accumulated anger after an unsuccessful game
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Mug
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Take a break. The length of the break is up to you and go do whatever it is you enjoy besides poker. Spend time with your family, exercise, sleep or go enjoy other hobby you may have. You may need an hour, a day, a week or months, it all depends how quickly you are able to overcome whatever set you off.
If you keep playing and whatever mentally set you off persists, affecting your game, stop playing immediately. What could have been bad a single bad session can turn into a much longer period of poor play. After a break from the game, figure out what has set you off, do analysis and make adjustments if needed. If you were playing poorly, it is important to recognize it.
If you keep playing and whatever mentally set you off persists, affecting your game, stop playing immediately. What could have been bad a single bad session can turn into a much longer period of poor play. After a break from the game, figure out what has set you off, do analysis and make adjustments if needed. If you were playing poorly, it is important to recognize it.
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dsk1231
Enthusiast
Silver Level
I start jamming any 2. lol. Just kidding but in my early days I did do that a few times. Nowadays I've really learned emotional control I've played long enough to understand variance is real and there's nothing you can do about it. But in the times I get frustrated I simply stop playing and do anything to get my mind off of poker. Once I have a good break I'll do a session review to see if it was simply variance or were my decisions as sound as I thought they were.
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Mug
Enthusiast
Silver Level
This is my personal story about how I learned how to deal with tilt, the hard way.
I had a period of tilt cost me a year away from the game. I mentally couldn't handle it. I was getting married and buying a house and instead of my normal weekly withdrawal, had withdrawn a large portion of my bankroll for the first time ever. A few consecutive bad sessions and suddenly I was tilting for two weeks straight. I saw it as variance and was still playing every night, and even putting in extra hours trying to just push through. Whatever had began my spiral, I couldn't fix. I simply could not beat the players or the game. I lost all confidence, and began questioning my skill. I starting lowering my stakes and went from my peak multitabling $50+5 SnGs, to the $30s my long time stakes, to the $20s, and so on. I didn't lower stakes fast enough and lost everything down to my last $7.
I took one year away from the game and kept working the job I had planned on leaving. It bothered me for much of that year. I loved the game, but didn't love what the game had done to me.
It couldn't have all been my fault, could it?
I thought about it constantly and eventually realized, I shouldn't have been playing poker at all at that time. I had two big life events happening at once, I was stressed and my bankroll was a fraction of what I was used to playing with. I left myself in a spot unable to absorb any negative variance, and mentally it began to affect my play. Finally I realized, I was just playing bad poker. I got back to my life and realized when I was ready I would come back to the game.
One year later I log back into my account and see a whopping $7 sitting there. I think about how if I had handled everything differently I would never be in this situation. I promised myself I would take it slow and challenged myself to start in the micros, which I had never played and work myself up. I knew darn well, that a deposit was likely as I am an impatient person by nature, but it turns out it wasn't. It took about 1500 games over a period of roughly 3 months but I eventually worked my bankroll back up to 3 and then 4 figures. While still a far ways away from making withdrawals I had regained my confidence and learned a lot along the way. Two of the most important lessons were learning better bankroll management and recognizing tilt and how to handle it correctly. Unfortunately, little did I know black friday was only a few months away. I had been away from the game until about 1 month ago, and damn it feels good to be back.
I had a period of tilt cost me a year away from the game. I mentally couldn't handle it. I was getting married and buying a house and instead of my normal weekly withdrawal, had withdrawn a large portion of my bankroll for the first time ever. A few consecutive bad sessions and suddenly I was tilting for two weeks straight. I saw it as variance and was still playing every night, and even putting in extra hours trying to just push through. Whatever had began my spiral, I couldn't fix. I simply could not beat the players or the game. I lost all confidence, and began questioning my skill. I starting lowering my stakes and went from my peak multitabling $50+5 SnGs, to the $30s my long time stakes, to the $20s, and so on. I didn't lower stakes fast enough and lost everything down to my last $7.
I took one year away from the game and kept working the job I had planned on leaving. It bothered me for much of that year. I loved the game, but didn't love what the game had done to me.
It couldn't have all been my fault, could it?
I thought about it constantly and eventually realized, I shouldn't have been playing poker at all at that time. I had two big life events happening at once, I was stressed and my bankroll was a fraction of what I was used to playing with. I left myself in a spot unable to absorb any negative variance, and mentally it began to affect my play. Finally I realized, I was just playing bad poker. I got back to my life and realized when I was ready I would come back to the game.
One year later I log back into my account and see a whopping $7 sitting there. I think about how if I had handled everything differently I would never be in this situation. I promised myself I would take it slow and challenged myself to start in the micros, which I had never played and work myself up. I knew darn well, that a deposit was likely as I am an impatient person by nature, but it turns out it wasn't. It took about 1500 games over a period of roughly 3 months but I eventually worked my bankroll back up to 3 and then 4 figures. While still a far ways away from making withdrawals I had regained my confidence and learned a lot along the way. Two of the most important lessons were learning better bankroll management and recognizing tilt and how to handle it correctly. Unfortunately, little did I know black friday was only a few months away. I had been away from the game until about 1 month ago, and damn it feels good to be back.
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gklcap
Rock Star
Silver Level
We have a tendency to remember our losses rather than our victories. Everytime you suck out on someone with something like a 20% hand or less, take a screenshot and save it. Everytime your premium hands like AA and KK hold up in multiway pots, do the same. Everytime you rivered someone, do the same. Now whenever you are at the wrong end of a bad beat, take a look at all these hands and you'll come to the realization that you aren't always unlucky and it's just that those are the ones that tend to stick in your mind. Hope that helps.
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Gypsy
Enthusiast
Silver Level
WOW, Welcome BACK!
This is one of the best personal Story/Anti-Tilt Post's that I have read.
I am a USA Player as well and am Playing on Bovada and America's Cardroom/Winning Poker Network.
I don't know what HUD you have but I have Holdem Mgr.
If you decide to play on Bovada might I suggest the Ace Poker Solutions "Bovada Card Catcher." It is a HUD that gathers info. on the Players at the Table but cannot sustain the info. once they leave due to Bovada being Anonymous. It is much better than nothing. There is also the "Bovada Hand Converter" which converts your hands into poker stars format for import to "Holdem Mgr" and "Poker Tracker."
Oh, I find "LeakBuster" and "Note Caddy" indispensable as well.
Welcome Back and thanks for sharing your experience!
Gypsy
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Mug
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Thank you very much Gypsy, I very much appreciate the warm welcome and advice.
I was really out of the loop coming back and I had also narrowed it down to Bovada and ACR when I was doing my research. I haven't made any deposits yet, but managed to cash in a handful of $10 freerolls on ACRs site to get myself a small bankroll. I only wish there were a larger player base playing the STTs. Once I am able to build a larger roll I want to make the transition to cash games. I finally decided I needed a HUD after all these years and purchased PT4. I had never use a HUD as I thought I didn't need it, but figured why put myself at a disadvantage no matter how slight I perceived it to be. I realize now that the advantage isn't slight at all. I wish I hadn't of been so proud not to buy one when I was playing before Black Friday. It sure would of made self analysis a helluva lot easier.
Bovada is actually the site I preferred to play on before I started on ACR simply because I heard the player base is larger. The anonymity doesn't both me, as I was used to playing without a HUD. When I figure out a convenient deposit option I will finally play there. Thank you for the info on the HUDs available for Bovada. I am taking notes, and imagine they will be very useful when the time comes.
It definitely feels good to be back, thank you again for the welcome and advice. Best of luck to you.
I was really out of the loop coming back and I had also narrowed it down to Bovada and ACR when I was doing my research. I haven't made any deposits yet, but managed to cash in a handful of $10 freerolls on ACRs site to get myself a small bankroll. I only wish there were a larger player base playing the STTs. Once I am able to build a larger roll I want to make the transition to cash games. I finally decided I needed a HUD after all these years and purchased PT4. I had never use a HUD as I thought I didn't need it, but figured why put myself at a disadvantage no matter how slight I perceived it to be. I realize now that the advantage isn't slight at all. I wish I hadn't of been so proud not to buy one when I was playing before Black Friday. It sure would of made self analysis a helluva lot easier.
Bovada is actually the site I preferred to play on before I started on ACR simply because I heard the player base is larger. The anonymity doesn't both me, as I was used to playing without a HUD. When I figure out a convenient deposit option I will finally play there. Thank you for the info on the HUDs available for Bovada. I am taking notes, and imagine they will be very useful when the time comes.
It definitely feels good to be back, thank you again for the welcome and advice. Best of luck to you.
xOneCoolHandx
Legend
Bronze Level
Wow, that was great advice Gypsy. I have had a really tough night tonight, which sucked because this was the only night I had free this weekend to play and my night is already over. It started great, I was dominating a $25 GTD tournament on ACR. I had the chip lead and was being dealt so many good hands that I was able to only have to play them and fold away trash. Plus, I won the only 2 coin flips I was in (had pocket 10's v AK, he pushed on a 479 flop and I called, the other was AK v 99 and I hit an ace on the flop)...so I am cruising along and have 68000 in chips with 20 to go (18 places paid) and it started going horribly bad. First, I had AKo v AKo preflop and the other guy hit 4 diamonds for a king high flush. After several folded hands I was on the button with KK and raised, BB pushed (smallish stack) with A8 and beat me, about 10 hands later I had AK again and was beat by A4, and then my frozen wave continued when I got pocket 10s again and they were crushed by Q7o, finally I was knocked out in 6th place with AQs v 78o. Fortunately I cashed but I was on a cooler yet I dumbly decided to enter another tournament and did not win a single hand even though I was ONLY playing monsters preflop. I got knocked out 3 times (re-buying each time) before I finally decided I had enough because it pretty much ate the winnings I got from the first tournament.
I like your advice (Gypsy) to try a different site and I may do that tonight considering that this is the only night I have to play, and I like the 1 buyin strategy, I profited in the first but have come out behind after the re-buys in the 2nd, so although I finish a little down on that site tonight, maybe I can make it up on the other, and if I do lose that one buy in, then I will be finished for the night. Wish me a heater!
I like your advice (Gypsy) to try a different site and I may do that tonight considering that this is the only night I have to play, and I like the 1 buyin strategy, I profited in the first but have come out behind after the re-buys in the 2nd, so although I finish a little down on that site tonight, maybe I can make it up on the other, and if I do lose that one buy in, then I will be finished for the night. Wish me a heater!
