Folding QQ Preflop

[serendipity]

A lot of differing opinions in this thread, but this seems to be about the best advice that I've read here.

IF 2 or more players are allin in front of you, unless you know they are both very loose. lay it down

In a high stakes buy-in, I would probably even lay them down to a considerable raise, and then a re-raise.

Still scratching my head over those who say that they never lay queens down. There are too many situations when it makes sense to lay down pocket aces pre-flop, to argue pocket queens are an "always play" hand.

 

[dg1267]

While I was reading this post, a funny thing happened!

full tilt poker Game #10284626347: $100 Freeroll (77748029), Table 272 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:48:29 ET - 2009/01/27
Seat 1: Turbo37 (675)
Seat 2: Maisie J (1,395)
Seat 3: walking along (1,185)
Seat 4: harry1965 (1,515)
Seat 5: tegaru96 (1,185)
Seat 6: dg1267 (1,320)
Seat 7: LADYALOHA (3,285)
Seat 8: caba2c (1,440)
Seat 9: axlvai (1,500)
dg1267 posts the small blind of 15
LADYALOHA posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to dg1267 [Qd Qh]
caba2c folds
axlvai folds
Turbo37 folds
Maisie J folds
walking along calls 30
harry1965 calls 30
tegaru96 has 15 seconds left to act
tegaru96 calls 30
dg1267 raises to 270
LADYALOHA has 15 seconds left to act
LADYALOHA raises to 3,285, and is all in
walking along folds
harry1965 folds
tegaru96 folds
dg1267 calls 1,050, and is all in
LADYALOHA shows [Ah Td]
dg1267 shows [Qd Qh]
Uncalled bet of 1,965 returned to LADYALOHA
*** FLOP *** [Tc 8d Qc]
*** TURN *** [Tc 8d Qc] [Ac]
*** RIVER *** [Tc 8d Qc Ac] [As]
LADYALOHA shows a full house, Aces full of Tens
dg1267 shows a full house, Queens full of Aces
LADYALOHA wins the pot (2,730) with a full house, Aces full of Tens
dg1267 stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2,730 | Rake 0
Board: [Tc 8d Qc Ac As]
Seat 1: Turbo37 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: Maisie J didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: walking along folded before the Flop
Seat 4: harry1965 folded before the Flop
Seat 5: tegaru96 (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: dg1267 (small blind) showed [Qd Qh] and lost with a full house, Queens full of Aces
Seat 7: LADYALOHA (big blind) showed [Ah Td] and won (2,730) with a full house, Aces full of Tens
Seat 8: caba2c didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: axlvai didn't bet (folded)

 

[vagas35]

^^^^

Thats not funny!

 

[dg1267]

I didn't think so either. If it would've been a live table, I probably would've bitch slapped his ass back to next week.

 

[DocHamer]

Would you ever fold QQ preflop?
I up till now have have always just called any amount or any all in with with the top 3 premium pairs preflop, but not sure if you should at least fold QQ sometimes maybe KK even occasionally.
I was playing in a 180 players sit n go and near the start some guy just pushed all in preflop when I had QQ, in a pot noone had entered yet
I had 6000 chips, he had 3000 roughly and there were 1500 starting chips.
I contemplate folding but I call and he has AA which holds up.
Thing is you get people pushing all in with JJ, 1010, AK or AQ or weaker hands so he could have had a weaker hand than me.
His play was obviously garbage of course because he would most likely have just picked up the blinds with this push, when the stacks were so deep.

You should never call an all in preflop with Q Q unless you know how the people are playing and even then it is a risky move.

I will call all in preflop with K K or A A every time

 

[zwijg]

If i see too much action pre-flop i'll fold them. Not a hard fold if you see a raise and a re-raise (depending on the players offcourse).

Now if i have KK and two tight players start raising pre-flop, now that's a harder fold

 

[scphillips87]

If you're playing a high stakes game, it's one pair and just one hand. If I have been playing for an hour or more (playing the so-so hands and building up my stack) and risk getting knocked out by an all in move with queens... I'd lay it down.

 

[superting23]

I rarely never fold QQ pre-fold. Maybe on the flop when I see a king or an ace.

 

[dg1267]

I rarely never fold QQ pre-fold.

I never fold them pre-fold either. I always wait until after I fold.

 

[ecoutee72]

I may play a little aggressive at times, but personally I don't fold QQ preflop. There are too many people going all in a much weaker hands. I look at it from this perspective. Poker is about playing the odds. When I have QQ, there are only two hands that beat me. Don't get me wrong i take my share of beats. but the majority of the time I take down the pot with qq.

 

[kolobot]

not cool to fold QQ in some situations pre-flop, like a few days ago I folded them pre-flop. one reraise and an all in, thought its obvious that im beat here... nope, they went heads up with like sevens and a KQ, and it was after almost two hours of playing in the tourney already. nice stuff