Do you miss KK Preflop in All in triple or more?

[DiegoRamos]

I have never folded KK pre and don’t plan on it, literally the only thing I can think of is a money bubble where cashing is suuuper important to your roll. Even then I’d say shove but regardless I just don’t believe it’s ever a hand to fold pre. Sometimes you run in to AA, sometimes another hand gets there, that’s the game.

The chance to find an AA against your KK is approximately 0.2%. So even in FT you can not let go of that hand.

 

[BriceNice]

lol Im not folding JJ in a triple all in.

 

[andreii955]

you have nothing to comment on playing preflop all, just luck, there's no strategy, you just have to wait to put your cards GL

 

[DiegoRamos]

lol Im not folding JJ in a triple all in.

haha


Review your friend concepts. In this situation I only pay with AA or KK. QQ- the variance is immense.

 

[AlbieTross]

I don't think I could ever get myself to fold KK or AA preflop. Definitely not AA anyway...KK I would only drop if I was in a long tournament close to bubble boy and 3+ people were already all-in. Chances are one of them has an ace and an ace will show on the board.

 

[shair]

In preflop it is the better combination and no one never fold that cards, but you must raise or go all, depend on situation.

 

[DiegoRamos]

I don't think I could ever get myself to fold KK or AA preflop. Definitely not AA anyway...KK I would only drop if I was in a long tournament close to bubble boy and 3+ people were already all-in. Chances are one of them has an ace and an ace will show on the board.

I disagree. Preflop regardless of the situation you should never drop KK or AA.
In the bubble the players usually loose, to steal the blinds and to press. So it's just another reason not to let go of a hand like that.

 

[DiegoRamos]

Just to be clear, this is not Bad Beat.


pokerstars Home Game Hand #181346743783: {Cardschat Events} Tournament #2191422775, 17000+3000 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (40/80) - 2018/01/21 19:48:19 BRT [2018/01/21 16:48:19 ET]
Table '2191422775 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: kena3000 (7342 in chips)
Seat 3: Staffi_93 (10346 in chips)
Seat 4: Denver225 (5873 in chips)
Seat 5: Eng Ramos SP (10596 in chips)
Seat 6: big kaban (3394 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 7: strokin07 (2688 in chips)
Seat 8: 3722BMZ (3131 in chips)
Seat 9: mikesealcoat (2475 in chips) is sitting out
kena3000: posts the ante 10
Staffi_93: posts the ante 10
Denver225: posts the ante 10
Eng Ramos SP: posts the ante 10
big kaban: posts the ante 10
strokin07: posts the ante 10
3722BMZ: posts the ante 10
mikesealcoat: posts the ante 10
Denver225: posts small blind 40
Eng Ramos SP: posts big blind 80
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Eng Ramos SP [3c 2s]
big kaban: folds
strokin07: raises 80 to 160
3722BMZ: folds
mikesealcoat: folds
kena3000: folds
Staffi_93: folds
Denver225: folds
Eng Ramos SP: calls 80
*** FLOP *** [2d 3d 7s]
Eng Ramos SP: checks
strokin07: bets 220
Eng Ramos SP: raises 299 to 519
strokin07: raises 739 to 1258
Eng Ramos SP: raises 1222 to 2480
strokin07: raises 38 to 2518 and is all-in
Eng Ramos SP: calls 38
*** TURN *** [2d 3d 7s] [2c]
*** RIVER *** [2d 3d 7s 2c] [Qc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Eng Ramos SP: shows [3c 2s] (a full house, Deuces full of Threes)
strokin07: shows [Ks Kh] (two pair, Kings and Deuces)
Eng Ramos SP collected 5476 from pot
strokin07 finished the tournament in 83rd place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5476 | Rake 0
Board [2d 3d 7s 2c Qc]
Seat 1: kena3000 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Staffi_93 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Denver225 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Eng Ramos SP (big blind) showed [3c 2s] and won (5476) with a full house, Deuces full of Threes
Seat 6: big kaban folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: strokin07 showed [Ks Kh] and lost with two pair, Kings and Deuces
Seat 8: 3722BMZ folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: mikesealcoat folded before Flop (didn't bet)

 

[supernuts25]

I'm not really understanding your statement or question.
are you saying people are folding these hands pre ?? Due to being scared of badbeats or jaming it preflop ??

 

[dragunovich]

nope, never drop it.. i imagine you ask the question of how often you have had kk and lose vs AA.. never drop that preflop, but postflop is a little common the drop with too much action with A in the flop .. dont feel bad about losing against AA is part of the game.

 

[DiegoRamos]

nope, never drop it.. i imagine you ask the question of how often you have had kk and lose vs AA.. never drop that preflop, but postflop is a little common the drop with too much action with A in the flop .. dont feel bad about losing against AA is part of the game.

The question itself is why some people drop these hands all in pre.
In an all in between the entire table you can not drop those hands. 99.8% You'll be up front and pull that pot.

 

[Sparky IoW]

I think if you are thinking of folding AA prepared flop you are more worried about losing chips rather than building your stack. I'm still learning but from what I've read you don't win tournaments without putting your stack on the line now and again.

 

[wsbar]

It depends a lot, there are several factors that should be analyzed before playing KK. We must be cautious and a lot of patience to win a tournament. To be able to win tournament in a few moments we should fold AA, believe me!

 

[Syltan]

It all depends on the cost of the tournament, if the freeroll is always a call, but the more expensive the less situations will be in which there will be more than three people all in, basically 2 people.

 

[boonvech]

i never fold preflop with KK AA and QQ and most of the time I win. But when i am the first to bet and i just only 3bb bet, so many time i lost money.

 

[DiegoRamos]

It depends a lot, there are several factors that should be analyzed before playing KK. We must be cautious and a lot of patience to win a tournament. To be able to win tournament in a few moments we should fold AA, believe me!

This posflop.
Pre you can never drop AA or KK

 

[AizenFalck]

I usually never fold KK preflop, I 3 bet and wait the flop. Once in the flop I wait again if theres an ace I 3 bet again and if someone call or raise, that is the first alarm to say goodbye to a great hand haha

 

[DiegoRamos]

I usually never fold KK preflop, I 3 bet and wait the flop. Once in the flop I wait again if theres an ace I 3 bet again and if someone call or raise, that is the first alarm to say goodbye to a great hand haha

Exactly, the ideal is Cbet and play analyzing all the possibilities. Primarily the Range of the villain

 

[fortopyan]

I'm not fold in triple all-in))))

 

[DiegoRamos]

I'm not fold in triple all-in))))

Continue as soon as your graph is headed toward the core of the earth.

 

[jignesh_cse]

No i will not fold KK preflop in triple all in almost never.....

 

[TeUnit]

All you can do is try to maximize how much you win, if you get sucked out on, well thats just poker. How you maximize the amount you win is by understanding the villans.

 

[freestocks]

I cannot fold aces or kings pre-flop.

 

[DiegoRamos]

The overwhelming majority do not miss AA and KK.
But I see many people who still find it profitable to drop into a bubble and FT.
I believe that the only solution in this case is only the interest of these people in studying and reviewing their concepts.

 

[fortopyan]

Continue as soon as your graph is headed toward the core of the earth.

It's joke)))