# Do anyone have a good bankroll management system? (for cash game)

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#### bustme

##### Rock Star
Silver Level
When is it right to move up and down in stakes for example? ( NL cash game)

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#### tigertight

##### Rock Star
Silver Level
5% max is what i do.

#### zachvac

##### Legend
Silver Level
NL I've heard you should have 20x max buy-ins. Max buy-in is usually 100 BBs, so that's 2k BBs. So once you have 2k BBs for the next level you can move up.

Although this plan is contingent on you being a winner at the stakes you move up to. I haven't heard the number for moving down, but I'd say if you lose 1/4th of your BR you should move down. So if you're playing at 5c/10c you should have at least \$200. Say you hit \$500 and are properly rolled for 10c/25c now (.25*2,000 = 500). I'd play until 375, go back down to 5c/10c until I hit \$500 again and try again. Hopefully you never have to go down, and I just made the 1/4 rule up (although that's what I'll probably do), but the 20x max buy-in is definitely an established number. Although it's bendable too. If you absolutely cannot afford to go broke, use 25x or 30x the max buy-in and if you want to make money quicker at more risk you could use a lower number. But if you want to be reasonably sure that you won't lose your BR and aren't playing for your sole income, 20x the max buy-in is probably a good number to use when moving up.

#### zidane10

##### Rising Star
Bronze Level
I've read somewhere that it's 40x the max buy-in where "max buy-in" is equal to 100x the big blind and not what the casino makes it.

So for example, 2-5 NL, the ACTUAL max buy-in should be \$500 and this is what you should use for your calculation (40 x 500 = \$20,000 bankroll). However, some casinos let you buy-in for \$1,000 or \$2,500 for this game. Just ignore that as that is NOT the ACTUAL max buy-in.

#### Boltneck

##### Rock Star
Silver Level
My understanding is that the figure is based on the risk that you are comfortable with.

15 x max buy in is high risk / high reward

20 x max buy in balanced approach (with a 5% risk of going bust I believe)

30-40 x max buy in is the professional / concervative approach.

I'm not sure what the "going back" figure should be. but personally I'd suggest mid point between upper and lower limits depending on the strategy chosen. In other words, move up to \$50 at \$1000 (for the balanced approach) and back down at \$750 (the mid point between \$25 (x 20 = \$500) and \$50 (x 20 = \$1000).

If you multi table, that needs to be taken into consideration also. I believe when multi-tabling the amount of money that you have WHICH IS NOT in play should be at least the point at which you would drop back down. In other words, you are making an allowance for the possibility of loosing ALL of the money that you have in play, and would still be able to maintain the minimum for the level that you are playing. I hope that doesn't sound too confusing.

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