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benlstap
Rising Star
Bronze Level
Thank you so much for your input!!! Definitely helps!!!
Thank you so much for your input!!! Definitely helps!!!
fletchdad
Jammin................
Loyaler
Its also an online vs live question IMO.
Some live veterans cant play well online but kill live and vise versa.
But that is not a rule. Some younger players with online weaning kill live as well.
AND, a 60 year old with 3 years experience vs a 26 year old with 3 years experience. IMO both can be just as good, but perhaps the younger player is more flexible????? (Just assuming us old folks can be more set in their - our - ways??)
But, does the arrogance of youth hinder a newer player more than the experience of the older guy? ( when they are both new to poker, and the older guy know he does not know it all??)
Some live veterans cant play well online but kill live and vise versa.
But that is not a rule. Some younger players with online weaning kill live as well.
AND, a 60 year old with 3 years experience vs a 26 year old with 3 years experience. IMO both can be just as good, but perhaps the younger player is more flexible????? (Just assuming us old folks can be more set in their - our - ways??)
But, does the arrogance of youth hinder a newer player more than the experience of the older guy? ( when they are both new to poker, and the older guy know he does not know it all??)
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rugby0
Visionary
Silver Level
I started playing poker in 1944. I was 9 and played with my dads poker group. Played for two years on my dads money and then he forced me to begin playing with my own money. Paid for college and my first house with my earnings. Have played in casinos, house games, back rooms, and rv's. Love to play online but had to upgrade my computer. Age v experience want them both. Age helps read people, study and experience help with the math. I am not a professional but can play at most levels execept the very highest. I am 76. Hope this helps.
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cheaptrix
Rock Star
Silver Level
1) How long have you been playing poker?
15 years
2) So when you started playing poker, did you think that age or experience mattered?
experience
3) Do you believe age plays a factor in today’s poker society?
yes and no. more important factor is good health. so generally speaking the younger generation has the edge.
4) In your opinion, how does experience compare to age as a benefit or hindrance in the game of poker?
age is generally not a factor if your healthy. experience is the most important factor.
one thing you left out is I.Q. Anyone can learn the optimal strategy to beat the game but intelligence is going to determine how fast that person can rise to the top.
many (or at least some) of the young guns have risen to the top with little help from training sites, coaches or books.
they figured out how to analyze the game on their own. most of us don't have the insight to do this. or at least i didn't.
for the majority, poker is so complex, you can play a lifetime thinking all your plays are +EV. so until you get the experience (training sites, coaching or books is the only way to improve for most of us)
15 years
2) So when you started playing poker, did you think that age or experience mattered?
experience
3) Do you believe age plays a factor in today’s poker society?
yes and no. more important factor is good health. so generally speaking the younger generation has the edge.
4) In your opinion, how does experience compare to age as a benefit or hindrance in the game of poker?
age is generally not a factor if your healthy. experience is the most important factor.
one thing you left out is I.Q. Anyone can learn the optimal strategy to beat the game but intelligence is going to determine how fast that person can rise to the top.
many (or at least some) of the young guns have risen to the top with little help from training sites, coaches or books.
they figured out how to analyze the game on their own. most of us don't have the insight to do this. or at least i didn't.
for the majority, poker is so complex, you can play a lifetime thinking all your plays are +EV. so until you get the experience (training sites, coaching or books is the only way to improve for most of us)
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RockStarRR91
Rising Star
Bronze Level
well it has be experience. just because you are young doesn't mean you are a good poker player. ive played many of young kids that are donks. now if a young kid has the same amount of experience as a older pro i would fav the young kid
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mitchell1204
Rising Star
Bronze Level
I was 43 when I first started playing. After reading and studying for a full year, did I start to win and I have had some big wins. Poker takes alot of training as it's complex just like chess.
But to seperate age groups? Nah, all can learn. I'd say if anything, younger players tend to be more aggressive at the wrong times.
The same goes on the other end. Donks come from all age groups.
But to seperate age groups? Nah, all can learn. I'd say if anything, younger players tend to be more aggressive at the wrong times.
The same goes on the other end. Donks come from all age groups.
JusSumguy
Chipmonger
Silver Level
As if an older player hasn't multitabled. Is this some secret thing for young folks only? Or are you generalizing? Then you said this...
So which is it? Experience plus "younger players?" Or just experience. You don't have to be young to have experience. In fact, logic would say the opposite.
BS... Experience and common sense are all that matters. Have I been in a given situation, or not.
Not a thing to do with age... experience.
Now, I give you this. An experienced older player well versed in multitabling, who has also learned the art of live tells as well. Using your logic, age would be the most valuable here. Live tells take years of not multitabling, and not using a HUD. Add this to dedicated web play and study puts this person at an advantage live. Whilst the young phenom has no edge on the older experienced player on line.
The only way to make your logic work is to assume that the older player has no experience with multitabling and poker math. But if this person does, then proper logic dictates that he/she has an advantage over a young person.
So... in essence it comes down to experience. Yet, given the same circumstances, age has a definite advantage..
And BTW. Stu Unger started all this...
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cheaptrix
Rock Star
Silver Level
for the average player just playing the game doesn't make you a better player. however i do agree with you that online players have an advantage over live players, assuming live players never get on a computer and assuming the online player uses software, forums and/or training sites.
the amount of information an online player has with software, forums and training sites can and will put you on the fast track to success.
But just playing the game doesn't make the average person a better player.
LarkMarlow
Legend
Silver Level
Ben, what a great project! To get an excellent overview of the evolution of the poker culture, I highly recommend Cowboys Full by James McManus, who is a professor at the Art Institute in Chicago. Now, on to your questions.
1) How long have you been playing poker?
I've played 5 card draw and variations of that version of poker from the time I was very young. (Exactly how many years that has been I won't say. Rather, I'll give you some data so you can extrapolate a rough idea
: 3 of my 4 daughters have graduated from college; my youngest is in grad school.)
However, I didn't fall in love with the game until I started playing no limit holdem poker in 2005, both online and live in riverboat casino card rooms.
2) So when you started playing poker, did you think that age or experience mattered?
From what I observed age didn't matter at all, and that was a among the reasons for my attraction to not only the game, but the culture. Matter of fact, in a thread I started here over a year and a half ago titled "Why I love poker", I wrote:
In the book Risky Business, by A. Avarez, a quote about the poker community by Eric Drache describes part of why I love this aspect of the game. He says, "…there are no prejudices. Poker reduces everyone to a simple level. Degrees, languages, education, colour, none of that means a thing. All that matters is the amount of chips in front of you. You cannot find a more open-minded group of people than poker players." I would also add interesting and endlessly fascinating people. People I would never be likely to encounter in my day to day life. In addition, poker transcends age and, as I have said before, gender too.* Online poker expands this experience exponentially via the plethora of sites and wonderful forums like CardsChat.
[Note: This sentence was not in bold in the original post. Another point I'd like to make to you is that though as a woman I am certainly a minority in this culture, the level field of poker is as open for me to go wherever I want with my game as it is for the men who play.]
3) Do you believe age plays a factor in today’s poker society?
See my answer to #3.
4) In your opinion, how does experience compare to age as a benefit or hindrance in the game of poker?
Experience rules.
1) How long have you been playing poker?
I've played 5 card draw and variations of that version of poker from the time I was very young. (Exactly how many years that has been I won't say. Rather, I'll give you some data so you can extrapolate a rough idea
: 3 of my 4 daughters have graduated from college; my youngest is in grad school.)However, I didn't fall in love with the game until I started playing no limit holdem poker in 2005, both online and live in riverboat casino card rooms.
2) So when you started playing poker, did you think that age or experience mattered?
From what I observed age didn't matter at all, and that was a among the reasons for my attraction to not only the game, but the culture. Matter of fact, in a thread I started here over a year and a half ago titled "Why I love poker", I wrote:
In the book Risky Business, by A. Avarez, a quote about the poker community by Eric Drache describes part of why I love this aspect of the game. He says, "…there are no prejudices. Poker reduces everyone to a simple level. Degrees, languages, education, colour, none of that means a thing. All that matters is the amount of chips in front of you. You cannot find a more open-minded group of people than poker players." I would also add interesting and endlessly fascinating people. People I would never be likely to encounter in my day to day life. In addition, poker transcends age and, as I have said before, gender too.* Online poker expands this experience exponentially via the plethora of sites and wonderful forums like CardsChat.
[Note: This sentence was not in bold in the original post. Another point I'd like to make to you is that though as a woman I am certainly a minority in this culture, the level field of poker is as open for me to go wherever I want with my game as it is for the men who play.]
3) Do you believe age plays a factor in today’s poker society?
See my answer to #3.
4) In your opinion, how does experience compare to age as a benefit or hindrance in the game of poker?
Experience rules.
sCATpoker
Legend
Silver Level
1) How long have you been playing poker?
25 years total but not fulltime,Have been playing what i would call regularly since 2008 live and online
2) So when you started playing poker, did you think that age or experience mattered?
Of course expeirince goes withought question very important, Age doesn't really matter. However it can be deceptive some may consider a young kid say 20 for example may view him as inexperienced just because of the players age however he could of been playing fulltime since he was 2 and the opposite could be said for someone older may give them more credit for being experienced and wise just due to age giving them credit where not due ,
3) Do you believe age plays a factor in today’s poker society?
Yes as explained above, However it is definately no comparison to experience, However If your older and have more experience I think it puts you at an advantage just due to time invested and the amount of hands an active for years player would have over a young player that is active but just due to time has not had yet
4) In your opinion, how does experience compare to age as a benefit or hindrance in the game of poker?
Seems like the same question asked 4 diffrent ways, same answer experience is the winner over age hands down.
25 years total but not fulltime,Have been playing what i would call regularly since 2008 live and online
2) So when you started playing poker, did you think that age or experience mattered?
Of course expeirince goes withought question very important, Age doesn't really matter. However it can be deceptive some may consider a young kid say 20 for example may view him as inexperienced just because of the players age however he could of been playing fulltime since he was 2 and the opposite could be said for someone older may give them more credit for being experienced and wise just due to age giving them credit where not due ,
3) Do you believe age plays a factor in today’s poker society?
Yes as explained above, However it is definately no comparison to experience, However If your older and have more experience I think it puts you at an advantage just due to time invested and the amount of hands an active for years player would have over a young player that is active but just due to time has not had yet
4) In your opinion, how does experience compare to age as a benefit or hindrance in the game of poker?
Seems like the same question asked 4 diffrent ways, same answer experience is the winner over age hands down.