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fundiver199
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That is a bit results oriented. In real time, you did not know, we was also on a draw, or that he would miss.
That is a bit results oriented. In real time, you did not know, we was also on a draw, or that he would miss.
JBGoode
Rock Star
Silver Level
97s in the HJ against a MP open I would fold and find a better spot. You have 2 to act behind. If I did play it the way you did, I'm not raising the flop. I'm just flatting, maybe looking to raise the turn....
If you want next level thinking, I would have put hand like 97s in my 3Bet range. 3Bet with the best, and worest of your range for balance. Personally I just like letting this go pre.
If you want next level thinking, I would have put hand like 97s in my 3Bet range. 3Bet with the best, and worest of your range for balance. Personally I just like letting this go pre.
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twoG1cup
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Depends. In pokerstars or live, AK might be a half decent hand but at the card room I play at AK is a GUARANTEED losing hand.
Yesterday I saw 9 people lose their stack with AK.
jadaminato
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Silver Level
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vini127
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Silver Level
The dude had the nut flush draw. Id call easily in that spot aswell.. Ur play was bad, cuz u have only 3 outs (10's no heart) to win this hand. Ofc u couldnt tell he had suited hears, but you probably should put in his range higher suited cards, such as AK, AQ, KQ. So, I think the correct play was either 3bet shove on flop or check/call flop and check/fold turn if no hearts come.
Dusan
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Silver Level
Yes, you have nothing. The double gutshot is only 6 clean outs. That situation it's not like the open-ended with 8 clean outs. Even that is very weak OTF. Eight outs is not a strong draw. In your case, any 10h or 6h gives you both a flush and you'll be gone by losing all your money. Any other heart and all your chips go to him too. He's got 6 overs also that gives him a big pair. If you both miss he's going to win based on his Ace high.
So, what you got? ---------- NOTHING!:laugh:
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fundiver199
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If you want to fold huge combo draws on the flop based on knowing the runout and your opponents hole cards, please let me know, where I can find you at the poker tables
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twoG1cup
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J88.
Usually someone has AK with a favorable flop like K 9 2 and bets big. Someone else has AA or KK.
Other times a favorable flop again and someone donk calls with 10 3 and gets a straight or a flush on the river
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Guernica1974
Rock Star
Silver Level
Depending on where in tournament!
should note AK "value" is different depending on where in tournament you are!
in the beginning AK has less value since more people are willing to pay to see the flop and likelyhood of AK being the loosing hand is greater.
later in tournament with blinds pressing people and simply being bigger percentage of their stack the willingness to call to just see the flop will decrease massively.
Basically late tournament most often you only get called by one so your probability of winning is 50/50 or better plus if the flop comes and a player dont hit something they will fold. with three mix cards on the flop a player calling typically have either a pocket pair or one pair or two pairs - so in this case you most likely already have lost or need to gamble on either hitting A or K on the river or force the other player out but that depends on stack and history of other player - typically will be best just check or fold if other player bet
should note AK "value" is different depending on where in tournament you are!
in the beginning AK has less value since more people are willing to pay to see the flop and likelyhood of AK being the loosing hand is greater.
later in tournament with blinds pressing people and simply being bigger percentage of their stack the willingness to call to just see the flop will decrease massively.
Basically late tournament most often you only get called by one so your probability of winning is 50/50 or better plus if the flop comes and a player dont hit something they will fold. with three mix cards on the flop a player calling typically have either a pocket pair or one pair or two pairs - so in this case you most likely already have lost or need to gamble on either hitting A or K on the river or force the other player out but that depends on stack and history of other player - typically will be best just check or fold if other player bet
Dusan
Enthusiast
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If you want to fold huge combo draws on the flop based on knowing the runout and your opponents hole cards, please let me know, where I can find you at the poker tables
In Las Vegas you can find me every day of the week :heeeellll
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drhousethebest
Enthusiast
Silver Level
I value every bodies opinion, but I think some people are missing my point. My card were irrelevant at this point. (IM TRYING TO bluff THE GUY AND MAKE HIM FOLD), what better spot to bluff a pot when the guy only has A high??? lol
That is why my bigger concern is if bluffing on the river would be a better bluff than bluffing on the turn?
Like I said, I had a good read of the situation and my opponent. If he had a higher pair, there is not way he would check the turn unless that he had a set, and even tho, would be too dangerous to let me catch up a straight or a flush. The only thing that I did not see coming was that he also has hearts!
Poker Orifice
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drhousethebest
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jadaminato
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Silver Level
I was thinking about that hand. I'm pretty sure the villain made a mistake paying your all-in. What advantages did he have? Spend 11 dollars to earn another 11.1? 2.1 to 1? Not enough. Compared to the number of times he will not complete the color (3 of 4), he is clearly losing money.
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FlopGrinder
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Mate, I think you played the hand perfectly. He made a reasonable call at the end too.