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Well dude it cant be that bad if you have $1600 spare on the old poker account. What about us poor freerollers lol ! I wouldnt be able to spend $1600 on poker ! I dont know if you no but its a recession here in England and its realy hard to find work. Iv been out of a job for a couple of months and am running out of savings. Guess all im trying to say is try look on the positive side :).
 
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Well, thanks for sharing and i will take your advice and try to not let it get to me on my loosing streaks.
 
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I like play at Carbon poker...there I won some tournaments , and my bankroll from 30$ was up to 752$. I was fascinated and I started play at tables. I was loosing 10$...then 25$...then 50$. To revover my money...i just put my dollars 500$ to 2/4 at HU and i was Dubled my money...but didn't stop. My bankroll now is 0.00$
Now I am thinking , why I was plaing at 2/4?? Next time i will resume at tournaments because i like them. And when is good bankroll I will play in cash.
 
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This has been a moving blog. I fear for you.

Poker is a pretty bi-polar game -- big ups, big downs, craziness. I've done what you have (to a lesser extent), although I have not thrown my life into poker playing. The bad days, when I've tilted off too much money, I feel really awful. A crazy depression -- brought on by a game, for god's sake. It's just scary how bad it is. And how stupid it is. And how avoidable. Sounds like what you are feeling.

I try, now, as hard as possible, to keep my emotions balanced. And my emotions balance better if I have not tilted off a lot of money. So, aside from BRM, I make a distinct effort to stop playing when tilting. And, oddly, keeping to BRM limits helps me keep my emotions in control. It sucks when one hits a series of awful beats, but it sucks worse to blow off the old bankroll.

If it makes you feel that awful, and you are feeling yourself spinning out of control, well, you just have to get back in control. However you can. Poker is not that important in the scheme of things. Sounds like you need a more balanced life, anyway. So maybe you could take a break from poker and stabilize yourself. Find a job, somewhere. A nice girlfriend. A solid base to your life. A core of friends. Other stuff. Think about what you need. You are no longer a kid (sorry! But it happens to us all.) and you maybe need more in your life that the up and down excitement of the poker life. Think hard about what you need in your life, not just what jollies you want.

Good luck to you, man.
 
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you are in thailand grinding full-time? or just vacation? there is a good bunch of 2p2ers holding up in bangkok and many of them are pros, rolling with 6 figure up BR. if your in the area, try searching 2p2 and maybe arrange a meetup. it shld help you alot in your game, + beats being alone.

all the best bro :)
 
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I've had a terrible few days also. Think I've lost a total of $800 over the last 3 days. (Mostly in SnGs and MTTs :mad: ). I was doing pretty well in the cash games and then I entered one of the FTOPS events and it all went down hill from there. I now have only $2 left in my Full Tilt account :( I ripped out some of my hair after my last loss :D
 
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I've read so many things like this that im not even surprised. But it seems obvious that if poker has you thinking of suicide then you should stop playing poker. Easier said than done for an addict though.

I suggest you learn more about the game. Learn as much as possible and practise BR management. Then at least you could limit your losses somewhat or maybe become a winner.

^^^This
I hope things get better for you.
 
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wow, that makes you think twice about going on tilt. I have been in the same position and gone on tilt many times and lost my br many times over. I Hope i can learn from this lesson.
 
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How can someone allow themselves to lose $1600 in one night? Of course I am just a poor woman playing low stakes and I would and could never keep that kind of $$ in a poker site. It shocks me as to how much $$ is in a poker site. I guess that is why all of the pros are on the major sites, more money for them to get their hands on.
 
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What makes a good poker player is not winning pots. Anyone can win a pot.
Its not losing. I'm a loser. Tonight is an example of why.

I worked hard this week. I won eight straight sessions and earned $700 for the week. I start thinking crazy thoughts. I can do this. I can make $50-100 a day playing low limits. I'm totally crazy just because I had a nice run.

I take 2 days off. I read the forum, I observe games, I post some advice and think a lot. I play tonight and I make very good decisions, but I lose on the river over and over again. I post one typical hand here and the feedback is positive. I played it right but was unlucky. All night long; the same story. I had the best hand until the river and the two outer hits and I lose.

Now I'm going to admit to what most players will never do. I went on tilt big time. I lost $1600 tonight.

My loss limit is $200. When I lose $200 I'm supposed to stop playing and wait for tomorrow BUT I kept playing and things just kept getting worse.
I went up to higher limits and got lucky at first, but in the end my small stack was no match.

Hey, I've been here before many times. I know the consequences, yet I have poker amnesia. I do this time and time again.

This is the story of a losing player. You may have a good grip on the game.
You may be able to make the cards transparent, but if you run into some bad beats and can't control yourself you'll end up like me. A broke losing player, but in the back of your mind you know you made the right play until you went on tilt, and that's what brings you back again and again, You had the best hand. It was a suck out. Just quit and wait another day, but no. You're a crazy man. You have to win it back, NOW.

please, when you get emotional walk away. Don't end up like me. Alone, suicidal in some cheap hotel in Thailand.

I just hope this helps someone that can identify. When you lose control think of me, and don't be like me. Be the better man. Walk away and wait another day.

This is sad but true and thanks for sharing you're thoughts and experience with us.... Not too many people like to admit that they are loosing players.... At least you're being honest with yourself and work on things that need to be worked on... good luck to you..
 
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I'm so glad that you're still around to talk to us. CC can be an excellent base to talk out your problems & to become your friends. I hope you will seek help for your gambling addiction though. Please don't hesitate to talk to us, on a daily basis if needed, if you EVER feel that suicide is still your option. As I stated earlier...suicide is a PERMANENT solution to a TEMPORARY problem! I have seen too many people like you in the ER that threw their lives away because for a brief moment in time it felt like the only answer! GL with the help you really do need. Take care of yourself.:)
 
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Mmmmm..... I can kinda relate to this in many ways.... I have tried to top myself on a number of times (5 years ago) but always ended up in hospital but never over poker and money. I learnt that there is nothing know what ever make me feel like that again.... Yes there has been a lot of work from medication and counselings. But i have had the odd time when playing poker e.g. big lose, bad beats etc. That little part of me goes in to that mode again. But i found gambling counseling work very well in that part!

But GAMBLING is no reason for taking a life!
 
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How can someone allow themselves to lose $1600 in one night? Of course I am just a poor woman playing low stakes and I would and could never keep that kind of $$ in a poker site. It shocks me as to how much $$ is in a poker site. I guess that is why all of the pros are on the major sites, more money for them to get their hands on.

This can be done quickly playing 25 or 50nl. I don't play those stakes but have watched friends and some of those pots can hit 200 bucks for one hand.
 
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How can someone allow themselves to lose $1600 in one night? Of course I am just a poor woman playing low stakes and I would and could never keep that kind of $$ in a poker site. It shocks me as to how much $$ is in a poker site. I guess that is why all of the pros are on the major sites, more money for them to get their hands on.

You say this like a person has control. They don't allow themselves to lose, when on tilt there is little to no control on emotions so it is not a matter of allowing themselves anything. This is why it is so important to stop playing when on tilt. You must be very new to this if having $1600 on a poker site shocks you. Just how much money do you think online pro's make in a year? $1600 is nothing for pro's and non pro's alike. I think you could keep that can of money on a site, if you were to consistently win large amounts of money playing online poker (right now as a newer person to this it might not seem comprehensible) but there are situations where you could. There are several people who decided to give online poker a try and were very poor and now make big money doing it. Of course it's not your typical story but it's happened.

Anyways, I wanted to say that I completely understand what many are not understanding about getting so emotional about the game. People keep saying "it's just a game", and while it is, for some it's much more than that.

There's a guy I know who started to play poker at the casino I play at. The first year he played he lost a lot of money. He was a single guy who had made a lot of money at an early age in the stock market and didn't have a job. During his 2nd year of playing he begun making a profit on a regular basis, playing live, he didn't dabble in online play. After his third year playing, he started traveling around Michigan and to Vegas and other cities and ended up making $125k. Not bad for three years playing poker.

He made the decision to sell his house and move out to Vegas. His first year there he ran in the red. After his 2nd year he lost everything, his bankroll, the extra cash from selling his house, his savings, stocks, everything. 2 years and he lost it all. His name is Eric and he is one of the nicest guys you'd ever meet. The kind that would give a stranger a place to sleep at night on a cold night, buy a homeless guy dinner, literally give you the shirt off his back.

Eric had a good life, had never been depressed but after losing everything he tried to commit suicide. It was a man who was going through some personal hardships that Eric let stay with him for a little while that came back to the house and found him lying on the floor unconscious. He had taken sleeping pills. Eric lived and is now working in Vegas as a dealer, he no longer plays the game.

A mutual friend of ours, who was a really good friend of Erics, flew out to Vegas and visited him in the hospital. It turned out that Eric viewed poker not as a game, but a dream. He made it his life dream to become good at poker and then to become a pro. He fell in love with poker the way people fall in love with their spouses. So for him, to not succeed and to go on life tilt and lose it all was a huge failure in his mind, one he couldn't get over.

So it wasn't just a game, he failed at his life dream.

Anyways, just saying I can see why some people feel so much stronger about poker than others. I can't relate, but I know Eric and can understand why things went so horrible for him and why he took it so very hard.
 
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Been there, done that. Smaller scale, same concept.

Sucks but the best part is you get to learn from it.
 
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Stormraven, you understand.

Thanks for all the good posts guys, I really appreciate the support.
All the advice is really good and sound. I'm going to look for a real job and try to find a hobby.
I have $250 left in my account and I want to keep playing.

I hope this admission leads me to a change. I'll keep you guys posted.
I'm not in BKK right now, but will be back in 2 weeks (visa run).
 
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the 1st step to solving any problem, and the hardest step.. is to first admit you have one.

Well done bro, proud of u. Stay positive!
 
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