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What is the best strategy to move up the limits faster? Play 30% of the time and study 70%, or do otherwise playing 70% of the time and studying by 30%?
 
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You need to play at the local casino’s because the level is not matched with the money they play before them alot of players , always play with a edeg ;) ;)
 
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Play some MTT's and try for a big score. :) That usually helps bump up your limits
 
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You need 2 legs: Money and Skill.

The first one is easier to get, your strategy to move up depends on how much you are disciplined, because you have to move up when you have money and skill for that level and when you lose you have to move down. Some people get to move up with 100 buy ins, other people with 10.
you have to consider your edge, your win ratio your ROI, win ratio...
 
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To make poker the main earnings. That when you tilt, you understood that you harm yourself and in case of failure you will have nothing to eat
 
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i think its w/e works for you baby!

i mean i like to break it down to 50/50.6 months ago i started reading and playing,reading and playing and trying to apply what i read in my game.sometimes its tough,hell im 52 and forget what i read from time to time,lol,so,id have to go back and read it again,lmfao.but whatever right?i just keep plugging along,reading,studying and trying to apply it each and everyday.the MAIN thing i think is trying to eliminate mistakes,and learn how to play position,those two being the most important for now!hang in there and trust the math.and if you dont know what we mean by,trust the math,thats where i would start,learning and reading about the math and most important.......POSITION!thats all i have,good luck on the felts baby!:cool:
 
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I also break it down like 50-50. Once I tried to study first and read a book and articles but then when I played I was confused. I've learned too many things and couldn't focus on them. I think I know everything in theory but when I sit at the table I play like I never learned poker.:(So I think you should learn some basic tricks then practice them.
 
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Studying; 30%

Playing; 70%

It's so and wouldn't you like?
 
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Studying; 30%

Playing; 70%

It's so and wouldn't you like?


I would agree. I think it’s so important to get a feel for the play. Then being diligent with session review and posting / studying.

Also bankroll Management is really important when moving up. Especially when you are new to the game I would not push to much on that. Have at least 20 BI for next stage and drop back when you are down 5 BI. Rebuild confidence and take another stab. Don’t go chasing loses.

Discipline matters most
 
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Play to play and play again! At the micros enough basic knowledge and discipline! Only on the middle limits should learn and it is not 70% but 20% where the skill of the growth is not as sharp as the limits are rising!
 
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Hi, raimundox44! I think, at the beginning, the answer on your question is not very difficult. Study need, of course!
The question in another: how to study, what to study and why to study?! You can to study and lose, and can almost always only
to play and often to win, because can study the something, but continue to play by old, by inertia, or use recieved knowledge wrong...
And can many to play and to study on the real situations. May be is more painful, but this can change your play in best side more quickly!
Main to play by bankroll, that don't think about money, but think only a quality own game! My conclusion: theory is need, of course,
but nothing substitute practice. Good Luck in study of Poker, and main in His practical side!:jd4:
 
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I recommend that you play more and spend less time in study I explain why you go deep into study and then you go to the tables you will go with a mind full of everything you studied and you can not concentrate on the game just to refine and better your style of play and do not copy the style of other players and you will see that your level will rise
 
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When I started, I studied about 90% of the time.
Today I believe it is about 70% for studies and 30% for games!
Highly Recommend: If you are still having a lot of doubts and uncertainties, study a lot more than you play! ;)
 
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play 500,700 tournaments, then do an analysis of your hands, then play the same amount, look with your progress. If something goes wrong, then the theory should be studied with you at least once a week
 
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I think that 90 percent of the game and 10 percent of the training, as the game itself is training, learning from your mistakes
 
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you need to work on the theory and not be lazy - how much should decide on the basis of profit! and treat poker as a business, then there will be a result
 
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What is the best strategy to move up the limits faster? Play 30% of the time and study 70%, or do otherwise playing 70% of the time and studying by 30%?


Playing is going to be most helpful as long as your bankroll can withstand it. Play tight until you find the edges. I personally would wait to move up in stakes until I had 300 buyins if I was a tournament player. Between 100-200 if I’m playing cash. There’s really no rush. You need to gain comfortably and it could be a long transition. If you read often and are quite knowledgeable you should focus on the mental aspect of the game. Preparing yourself mentally and physically are underrated and undervalued
 
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Imagine that you have QQ on your hands, and on the table is a flop of JJ8, your opponent pushes all-in, what will be your actions?
 
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Imagine that you have QQ on your hands, and on the table is a flop of JJ8, your opponent pushes all-in, what will be your actions?

Hi there Fox1592 how you doing? I don't intend to be rude but I didn't get your question related to the point the original person who made the post: how to move up the stakes.
However your question is very good but I like to consider a few things before saying the answer right on the spot

A) I have QQ from which position?
B) I have QQ in which kind of Pot? Raised pot? 3bet pot? 4bet pot?
C) How much is my stack size and the stack size of the villain?
D) Who is the Villain who is pushing all-in in the Flop? A Recreational/Fish/Whale? Tight? Loose? Unknown? NIT?
E) How many hands have you played with this villain?
F) What are the stakes you are playing? 2 NLHE, 100 NLHE or 5000 NLHE? There is a huge difference in the decision making process according to the stakes you are playing.
G) Live or online?
H) If you decided to call the all-in the flop with you QQ, you do that only with QQ or there are other hands as KK and AA that you would do the same?

I play micro stakes and if it is just a single raised pot and the guy comes shoving, no matter if it is a LAG, TAG, etc, I would be folding. Against a Fish I would be folding. If it is a 3bet pot where I am the aggressor in position versus a very weak recreational player out of position that I already saw him do crazy things in the table it is a snap call.
But in a board dry as that, such as JJ8, when player at the micros do that, denying equity he would have a ton of AA, KK, J8s, J8o, JJ, Jx and 88 in his calling range. I don't believe we have the odds for calling in the flop with just a Pocket Pair. (because when villain goes all in flop it is telling us it is a huge monster as a chimera)
Do you really see a player trying to bluff like that in the Flop with AKo missing? with ATo missing? Or even with TT, 99 and under pocket pairs. If the answer is yes, please let me know your ideias. I am not saying that I am right because I am a low stakes player, but I don't see many Hero callings plus EV in a spot like it.

Regards;

Good game and good luck always at the tables!

Carlos 'Aballinamion' Barbosa
 
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To be or not to be

Hi there Fox1592 how you doing? I don't intend to be rude but I didn't get your question related to the point the original person who made the post: how to move up the stakes.
However your question is very good but I like to consider a few things before saying the answer right on the spot

A) I have QQ from which position?
B) I have QQ in which kind of Pot? Raised pot? 3bet pot? 4bet pot?
C) How much is my stack size and the stack size of the villain?
D) Who is the Villain who is pushing all-in in the Flop? A Recreational/Fish/Whale? Tight? Loose? Unknown? NIT?
E) How many hands have you played with this villain?
F) What are the stakes you are playing? 2 NLHE, 100 NLHE or 5000 NLHE? There is a huge difference in the decision making process according to the stakes you are playing.
G) Live or online?
H) If you decided to call the all-in the flop with you QQ, you do that only with QQ or there are other hands as KK and AA that you would do the same?

I play micro stakes and if it is just a single raised pot and the guy comes shoving, no matter if it is a LAG, TAG, etc, I would be folding. Against a Fish I would be folding. If it is a 3bet pot where I am the aggressor in position versus a very weak recreational player out of position that I already saw him do crazy things in the table it is a snap call.
But in a board dry as that, such as JJ8, when player at the micros do that, denying equity he would have a ton of AA, KK, J8s, J8o, JJ, Jx and 88 in his calling range. I don't believe we have the odds for calling in the flop with just a Pocket Pair. (because when villain goes all in flop it is telling us it is a huge monster as a chimera)
Do you really see a player trying to bluff like that in the Flop with AKo missing? with ATo missing? Or even with TT, 99 and under pocket pairs. If the answer is yes, please let me know your ideias. I am not saying that I am right because I am a low stakes player, but I don't see many Hero callings plus EV in a spot like it.

Regards;

Good game and good luck always at the tables!

Carlos 'Aballinamion' Barbosa
Here perhaps I, too, threw Queens, but on my practice accented situation and more interesting. For example, as I recently did, I call with 44, on the flop 6Q4, the apponent goes all-in, I call, he opens the cards, he has Q9, I have a set of 444, he has a pair of QQ. And that's what happens next, on the turn Q, he has a set, but my position is still the best, he has a set QQQ, I have a full house 444QQ, but river just gave me a shock when I saw the fourth Queen. As a result, I have a full house 444QQ, and he has a square QQQQ. Lucky, what can I say:D
 
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Here perhaps I, too, threw Queens, but on my practice accented situation and more interesting. For example, as I recently did, I call with 44, on the flop 6Q4, the apponent goes all-in, I call, he opens the cards, he has Q9, I have a set of 444, he has a pair of QQ. And that's what happens next, on the turn Q, he has a set, but my position is still the best, he has a set QQQ, I have a full house 444QQ, but river just gave me a shock when I saw the fourth Queen. As a result, I have a full house 444QQ, and he has a square QQQQ. Lucky, what can I say:D

Well, thanks a lot for your comments but let's not deviate the subject of this post very much because we already began another subject. Let's pay attention on what other users are saying to our friend, raimundox44 on how to move up the stakes. I see you are a new member of Cardschat community, so very welcome to our forum, I hope you appreciate it, if so recommend it to your friends and explore it because there are a lot of good material here.

Have a nice day, anything at all we are here!

Carlos 'Aballinamion' Barbosa
 
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Thank you for you message

Hi there Fox1592 how you doing? I don't intend to be rude but I didn't get your question related to the point the original person who made the post: how to move up the stakes.
However your question is very good but I like to consider a few things before saying the answer right on the spot

A) I have QQ from which position?
B) I have QQ in which kind of Pot? Raised pot? 3bet pot? 4bet pot?
C) How much is my stack size and the stack size of the villain?
D) Who is the Villain who is pushing all-in in the Flop? A Recreational/Fish/Whale? Tight? Loose? Unknown? NIT?
E) How many hands have you played with this villain?
F) What are the stakes you are playing? 2 NLHE, 100 NLHE or 5000 NLHE? There is a huge difference in the decision making process according to the stakes you are playing.
G) Live or online?
H) If you decided to call the all-in the flop with you QQ, you do that only with QQ or there are other hands as KK and AA that you would do the same?

I play micro stakes and if it is just a single raised pot and the guy comes shoving, no matter if it is a LAG, TAG, etc, I would be folding. Against a Fish I would be folding. If it is a 3bet pot where I am the aggressor in position versus a very weak recreational player out of position that I already saw him do crazy things in the table it is a snap call.
But in a board dry as that, such as JJ8, when player at the micros do that, denying equity he would have a ton of AA, KK, J8s, J8o, JJ, Jx and 88 in his calling range. I don't believe we have the odds for calling in the flop with just a Pocket Pair. (because when villain goes all in flop it is telling us it is a huge monster as a chimera)
Do you really see a player trying to bluff like that in the Flop with AKo missing? with ATo missing? Or even with TT, 99 and under pocket pairs. If the answer is yes, please let me know your ideias. I am not saying that I am right because I am a low stakes player, but I don't see many Hero callings plus EV in a spot like it.

Regards;

Good game and good luck always at the tables!

Carlos 'Aballinamion' Barbosa
And it happens, everything is possible in poker. I've been playing poker for about 10 years, but I've been playing a lot for the last year. Good luck at the tables!
 

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Hi, raimundox44! I think, at the beginning, the answer on your question is not very difficult. Study need, of course!
The question in another: how to study, what to study and why to study?! You can to study and lose, and can almost always only
to play and often to win, because can study the something, but continue to play by old, by inertia, or use recieved knowledge wrong...
And can many to play and to study on the real situations. May be is more painful, but this can change your play in best side more quickly!
Main to play by bankroll, that don't think about money, but think only a quality own game! My conclusion: theory is need, of course,
but nothing substitute practice. Good Luck in study of Poker, and main in His practical side!:jd4:
I agree with you, you need to look first of all as you play yourself, and not as opponents and follow the bankroll. But I want to note that recently the game has become more aggressive than a few years ago. Don't you think so?" What do you think in what situations is it worth defending your cards? How to work properly on increasing your stack? There are a lot of situations and no one can predict it, but thanks to special literature, videos and of course practice, you can make fewer mistakes and further increase your bankroll. Thanks for reading
 
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70% or 30%?

I think it's better to play 70% of the time than to study, although studying is also important. I think so because practice is a visual aid, in practice there can be many surprises, which are not written in books. But this for those who knows although would what the foundations poker, after all here still is important the fact as long man plays, because if he quite newcomer, then 70% him need to devote studying. And only then try to play on micro limits, I would remove from the study of the game for conditional money, if a person wants to make money on poker, because the game for conditional money is very different from the game for money. After all, no one wants to scatter I money as it happens with conditional chips is not it?
 
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