#### Ione

##### Enthusiast

**Silver Level**

I understand how to figure the outs of a given hand. If I am holding (for example) an open ended straight draw, then there are 8 outs, 4 of each card that I would need to complete the straight. In the 20 seconds that the average online poker room gives to make a decision, that's about all I have time to figure out.

Going beyond that to figure the odds is impossible (in the amount of time left), never mind the fact that you are making your opponents think you are hesitating with a weak hand... which makes them play strong against you. How do you all do it?

So,

8/47 (there are 47 cards left in the deck that I haven't seen) is roughly 1/6... so there's a 1 in 6 chance that I will get one of those 8 cards. Those are not great odds. It doesn't change much if you wait for the river, odds are still about 1 in 6.

Do you play that anyway?

I'm so confused.:frown: