lost my bankroll twice

[raskopain]

My friend: break your roll down into 100 units. Play 1 unit per 100 for any given tournament.

Stay out of cash, sit and gos, spin and goes and everything but MITs.

Play only when not tired and can concentrate; play at the most 1 a day.

When you double your roll adjust unit size accordingly.

 

[FIERROS]

Welcome to the club.

 

[Aballinamion]

Don't play for 8 weeks? (does this sound fun for most people?)
Don't play anything that involves real money, but in order to have fun and practice, dedicate yourself to freerolls and play money.
(does this sound fun? For a person who has stated they don't have time for tournaments, why would they choose to play freerolls? And for someone who has been playing 25nl cash game, why on earth would they ever consider spending any time on a play chip table? I'm sorry but play chip poker does not equal real poker (imo). It won't help someone get better at playing 25nl (imo))

Thanks for your response and respect. You are bringing valid points to this discussion.
As I was trying to say to OP, he shouldn’t be playing NLHE 25, instead he should be playing NLHE 2-5: but first, if he cannot stop playing in his time off, that he could play freerolls or play money (it seemed to me that the OP was addicted/tilting).
I’m never say that “play money” will improve someone’s skills: but in this case might be a resource to pass time and to rethink some basics of poker.
If OP had lost $ 1.400 bankroll in about two months this is a quite serious problem of addiction and should be treated with all care.
The fact that OP was playing NLHE 25 proves nothing, because he lost his bankroll twice, recognizing that he’s not a winning player.
The fact is that OP shouldn’t be playing any poker games for about 8 weeks or even more: he should reconsider why he’s playing in the first place, and why he’s allowing himself to lose tons of buy-ins that fast.
The OP is free to come here and tell us if I’m wrong about it.
Even so thank you once again for your participation. I think you should come by more often.

Best regards;

 

[Aballinamion]

$700 is not a HUGE loss.

This is retative: do we know how much OP has to spend? It’s not huge to you, but to me is a lot of money!

It is normal for many to lose $700 in one hand.

It is. But we know that most of forum users aren’t playing these stakes. Most of forum users are fighting to beat micro-low stakes.
And it doesn’t matter if OP is a millionaire or can toss out $ 1000 dollars per month playing poker: the fact is that we play poker to earn/make money not to be depositing because we can afford it.
It is very clear that OP is not happy, and it’s not a winning player at these stakes.
What should we say? Deposit more $ 700 next month and continue playing, it is what it is?
I think that are many perspectives: those who can afford to make poker deposits should definitely do it and play it. Those who cannot afford should try to build their own bankroll by bleeding at freerolls.
The whole point is that you missed: it doesn’t matter if OP can afford to make a monthly deposit, the point is that he is addicted and should quit playing for a while, regardless of his income.
And this is not good to poker rooms as well: OP should ask the Poker him to freeze his account for some time, if addiction is the case.
Plus OP should be humble and play stakes that he can beat, such as NLHE 2-5. But only after he takes a break.

 

[WrongUsername]

always use bankroll management in life and poker so u don´t go broke, hope u don´t go broke 3 times =) gl

 

[antonis32123]

It happened to most players I believe , or even everyone !!!
What is important is to come back , build a new Bankroll from freerolls , challenges , deposits and micro stakes games then play your games . It sucks when it happens , but it can happen .
I lost my bankroll to poker or casino games , mostly due to tilt and frustrating decisions . CC freerolls can help you build your bankroll again in no time . Good luck

 

[millya5]

To be honest, I've already lost count of how many times I've been bankrupt.

 

[10gerka]

you always have to take very drastic measures when events like this particular one happen, first you have to identify the mistake that is causing the loss, and then try to correct it, there are many factors as well that can be damaging and losing money in the long run.

 

[mara2259]

Hello guys I am frustrated hope someone can give me an advise or assistance to stand up again and find my confidence to play.
I really want to play better and advance level in some point but it’s really hard for me to keep my bankroll for long time. Also don’t have enough time to play and rushing to play couple of hours per day in anxiety and enthusiasm as would like to play more per day . To be more calm and thinking my actions more before to act. Nevertheless I have lost my 700 bankroll twice in 2 months. Now I will need to wait and try to rebuild a decent bankroll to start playing again . How I can keep my bankroll steady for long time . How I can find my confidence again what steps should have done or I have to do to become better? Hope my questions not be stupid and someone passed the same as me and knows better how to dealt with this downswing thanks a lot

You asked a question and answered it yourself. Losing a $700 bankroll twice in two months without enough time to play in a large number of tournaments is possible only if you participate in tournaments with a buy-in that does not match your bankroll. Poker is one of the few sports where you can "qualify" for money, but this does not at all mean an increase in your level of play. Hence the failure, as they say, not according to Senka hat. Get down to earth, play at the limits appropriate to your level and you will be fine.

 

[lacroir]

Several has already replied the same, but yes: proper bankroll management. And take a break, it might help.
Sometimes we tend to forget why we play poker (at least me, and I think most of us here): to enjoy it, and not to get rich with it (sure, that'd be a nice addition). Take a break, have a strict bankroll management, and start building your bankroll again. And enjoy it! That's the most important factor. Otherwise it will be a disaster: you'll keep losing money on something the you don't enjoy anymore because you lose money because you don't enjoy it anymore, and so on...

 

[Gallarado777]

just play on your bankroll and everything will be fine, friend If you can't do it, you should work and deposit money and already play at high limits, but to stay there you will have to be able to play hard this skill comes with experience that is gained at the limits at least so you should still play at less limits and go higher and higher just play there when you get a good amount you go to more expensive tournaments the main thing is to take your time and take a break from poker because sometimes you can lose too much

 

[JahreadJake]

I had to learn a lot of theory before I started playing, and I recommend you do too, because if you don't learn to play well early on, it's hard to fix bad habits later on.

 

[fundiver199]

Whatever happened to people who play for leisure and entertainment? Why does a person always need to follow strict BRM. Honestly BRM is basically for professional players or for others who are hoping to never deposit again (but what about deposit bonuses?.. although they rarely exist these days). $700 is not a HUGE loss. $700 isn't even enough to go to the casino on a weekend to play the cheapest stakes they have there (people do this ALL the time). It cost $700 to stay in a hotel for a long weekend.

You are 100% right, that strictly speaking BRM is only for professional players or at least winning players, who want to be able to continue playing without breaks, and without having to constantly move up and down stakes. But for everyone else they still need to understand variance in order to manage their poker budget.

In top of that it sounds like, OP is not playing in a completely healthy manner using words like "rushing to play" and "anxiety" to describe his playing pattern. So maybe he dont need to move all the way down to freerolls or play money games. But he definitely need to move down to stakes, which his poker budget can sustain. And where he might also have a higher chance of winning, since he will be facing softer competition.

 

[weezy1312]

I lost all my bankroll, more times that what i want to admit 😂, self discipline is crucial which i lack and working on, if i may give my 2 cents , first only deposit what you are comfortable losing else dont, that way you are more confident in your decisions and wont be tied to bankroll is down i need to win to make it up and affect your gameplay, second, you always want to be surrounded by players who are worst than you so your chances or winning are higher, its nonsense to grind higher stakes where you are the worst player and getting destroyed even when you get lucky it wont cover the other lossess you already taken, so its crucial to know your level and position yourself where you have an edge, bbz material are cheap and there are tons of great testimonials there on how it improved their games drastically, it could be useful even for a rec, best of luck on your future endeavors 🍀

 

[Pokerpoet2]

Hello guys I am frustrated hope someone can give me an advise or assistance to stand up again and find my confidence to play.
I really want to play better and advance level in some point but it’s really hard for me to keep my bankroll for long time. Also don’t have enough time to play and rushing to play couple of hours per day in anxiety and enthusiasm as would like to play more per day . To be more calm and thinking my actions more before to act. Nevertheless I have lost my 700 bankroll twice in 2 months. Now I will need to wait and try to rebuild a decent bankroll to start playing again . How I can keep my bankroll steady for long time . How I can find my confidence again what steps should have done or I have to do to become better? Hope my questions not be stupid and someone passed the same as me and knows better how to dealt with this downswing thanks a lot

Your questions are far from stupid, but your actions might be. Playing when you are feeling Anxious is definitely a wrong time to play Poker, If you cannot devoted your Time and Concentration to the game then you have little chance of improving and winning.

Go back to basics, Cardschat offer a wonderful course on "How to become a Winning Poker player in 30 Days" I would advise any one to do it no matter how much you feel you know about playing Poker, It never hurts to refresh your memory now and again, I still visit it and have been playing for over 20 years.

Then adopt a sound Bankroll strategy, It is so easy to deposit 3 or 4 Hundred Dollars and lose the lot in a few days or even a couple of hours if you are buying into the wrong games. Find the format you are comfortable with and stick to them. Personally I recommend not buying into a game that costs more than 1% of your Bankroll, so if you deposit $300 Dollars your maximum buy-in would be $3.00, Sounds pitiful I know but I can tell you it works for me.

I have never made a deposit on any poker site, built up several Bankrolls from Freerolls, and now feel comfortable buying in for any game up to $6.00 Dollars On-line, I have never blown my entire Bankroll, even after losing game after game on some days, because I know that tomorrow is another day, and I can survive the down swings, Bad Beats and suck-outs I have suffered from other players.

Rome was not built in a Day! Nor are there any get rich quick schemes, especially playing Poker, It takes Time and Patience to be a Winning Poker player whether that is one game a day, or a full year playing 20 games a day.

Good Luck in the Future, and don't be in too much of a hurry to play this wonderful, exciting game of Poker!

 

[Luvepoker]

You must follow bankroll management. With a 700 roll you should have plenty to play quite a while without going broke. Now that said poker players do go broke and will more than once but when do correctly it should be a rare thing to be in that big of a downturn with your roll. Use the guide ghostl put up. When your down to 80 Buy ins for a level you must drop to the next lower level. Do this every time you need to. Once you're up to the next level the guide says you may more back up but by doing this you could play hundreds of games and lose and still not go broke.

Now here one thing you need to look at and really think about. Are you a winning or break-even player? If you're not sure and have a new 700 bankroll, why not start a lever or 2 lower. This will give you longer time to grow as a player and not go broke as easily.

 

[Aballinamion]

You are 100% right, that strictly speaking BRM is only for professional players or at least winning players, who want to be able to continue playing without breaks, and without having to constantly move up and down stakes.

Let’s suppose I’m not a winning player and that I have $ 150 dollars on my pokerstars account.
I’m playing Tournaments of $ 2 buy-in and then I get down to $ 100. Then I start playing $ 1 SnGs and I’m going up and down.
One day I reach $ 180 and then I restart playing $ 2 tournaments. What is the name of what am I doing with my balance?
Most of us here on the forum are not professionals. Some of us are not solid winning players: you are saying that BRM is impossible or not viable for such cases.
Ergo, how should we deal with our balance, when we are just striving to reach the level of a winning player? i.e, if there’s no BRM for recreational players, what’s the strategy?

 

[Aballinamion]

It seems this make a lot of sense. That BRM is a thing for professionals and winning players. Nonetheless, by affirming it we are certainly discouraging other users and players to move on and play poker.
I said that OP should go play money or freerolls because I felt it was not on psychological conditions. @Poker Orifice said “if OP had no time to play how could it be playing these useless game?”
But the problem is not that OP hadn’t enough time: the problem is that OP had little time and try to play a lot or hands anxiously. If OP could find time to play real money it’s and lose his entire bankroll, it’s because OP admits that it cannot control himself.
If one player cannot control himself it’s wise to recommend a break off the tables, and if the player cannot do it, then play money or freerolls.
Sometimes people hypertext the meaning of some post, assuming too much without a good drop of common sense.
If the player is addicted it should not play any stakes. It should stay away of the tables.

Now, it’s not the first time that I read the same phrase here around the forum: “BRM is for professionals”. Okay, this is a valid point but brings a lot of questions that we should make before repeating it exhaustively.
It appears that some poker gurus had said that phrase and good players are repeating it like a mantra, without using a way to think what this statement really means.
We know that the great enemy of this forum is not rigged threads but lack of common sense and critical thinking.
And when I make a question like this, forum users simply lose their minds and don’t even bother to rethink what is been said.
Once again, I would like to ask you @fundiver199 are you a professional poker player? Do you use BRM effectively? What are your advices for beginners and players passing through mental breakdown?
It seems obvious but I would like to quote something that might work for beginners or advanced players, the 3 basics of BRM:

1. Only risk money you can afford to lose
2. Only play at stakes that are in line with your poker skill level
3. Be disciplined and patient when it comes to bankroll growth

Not sure if I can do it, but as long there are several articles of this site here, I would quote the source of these 3 basic principles of BRM:

Poker Bankroll Management: An Introduction

The best guide to poker bankroll management in 2023.

www.pokernews.com

In my humble opinion, we should stop repeating phrases and statements of what poker’s big shots states and start to think and rethink about what is being said and how does it work on practical world.

 

[Igor Popadyk]

I’ve lost my bankroll more than once, if there is no discipline, then it’s just a hobby, not your income, if you want to play like a pro, treat it like a job

 

[muzenza2012]

it's really something complicated, because there are phases that even if we leave with AA or KK, we end up losing, it's a bad phase, in this case it's better to take a break, stop playing, cool your head and then try again

 

[sibkaz]

Move to lower limits, play more carefully, and realize your mistakes.... ) No one is safe from losses ! What does not kill us, only makes us stronger ! )

 

[Arthurinacio17a]

Sometimes it's better to leave cash aside

 

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