Kinalha
Legend
Platinum Level
Sometimes i like to trap, when some maniac is on the table for example
Aballinamion
Sleeping with the Dark Lady of the Sith
Loyaler
I never limp any hands, big pairs, small pairs, none. Not ever completing from the SB.
Limping is a losing strategy for cash games: we give up initiative, we allow several multi-way pots, we are going to play OOP, when the flop comes even if he hit sets we are not sure about what to do, we can never bluff on the flop, and we must pay the rake.
There are tons of other reasons for not to limp into the pot, but anyone does what it thinks it’s best.
I have plenty of cash courses, have read many books, watched lots of streamers and I never saw any serious cash player recommending this “strategy”.
I’m not sure about tournaments, but I’m quite sure it’s a losing strategy as well:
Poker is a game of aggressive gameplay and moves. Many times we are going to win pots not because we own the best hand, but because we play aggressively. Not maniacally.
Of course there are times to be passive preflop and postflop, but not by limping.
And don’t listen to people who doesn’t play cash.
Don’t listen to people who post on the forum just for the sake of maintaining its platinum level status and have access to freerolls: listen to John Anhalt, Nathan Williams, Nanonoko, Doug Poulk, I’m just paraphrasing these guys, for I’m not better than anyone, just a known learning fish, but I talk things that I have learned. Also check the 30 days CardsChat course on the power of aggression. You will find it in the Learning Poker Thread.
“The Lannisters send their regards”
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WellAA
Visionary
Platinum Level
It's better raise than limp, or win little than lose big, isn't it?
Edu1
Legend
Platinum Level
John Anhalt? I didn't found any recent article or video of him
Pokerpoet2
Legend
Loyaler
I used to limp a lot when I first started playing, and yes it can be profitable short term, but I find now I prefer raising pre-flop as it thins down the number of players you are up against, You really do not want to see a flop when holding A/A that comes 4,5,6 as some players will limp with 7/8 off, and therefore you are losing, raising with a big pair could chase away these players leaving you with players with better hands like A/K, A/Q, A/J, or smaller pocket pairs.
There is no certainty that you are going to win with a huge pair but the pot is already bloated and you could take it down with one continuation bet after the flop, Some players like to win huge all-in pots because it is exciting, but the reality is Poker is not only about being all-in, Winning several smaller pots can bring success just the same, It just takes a little longer, and Poker is a game of Patience!
Many poker games I see on Stream's etc, most of the time never reach the River, sometimes they don't even see a flop as the Professional players are raising and re-raising and taking the pots down before any more cards are dealt. This is why you need to watch some of the Streamers playing On-line and watch the action as it happens, TV. games only show you the exciting hands because it makes good TV., but in reality there are many hands you don't see.
There is no certainty that you are going to win with a huge pair but the pot is already bloated and you could take it down with one continuation bet after the flop, Some players like to win huge all-in pots because it is exciting, but the reality is Poker is not only about being all-in, Winning several smaller pots can bring success just the same, It just takes a little longer, and Poker is a game of Patience!
Many poker games I see on Stream's etc, most of the time never reach the River, sometimes they don't even see a flop as the Professional players are raising and re-raising and taking the pots down before any more cards are dealt. This is why you need to watch some of the Streamers playing On-line and watch the action as it happens, TV. games only show you the exciting hands because it makes good TV., but in reality there are many hands you don't see.
Aballinamion
Sleeping with the Dark Lady of the Sith
Loyaler
Yeah, now professor @John A is famous and rich and doesn’t waste his time producing videos to us.
But there’s the Polished Poker Vol I
dreamer13
Legend
Platinum Level
For a new player, limp betting is an involuntary process in which he does not want to bet a large amount into the pot, while not collecting a large hand and not risking at all. more cases than when players play tight or passive for regulars. This will confuse your opponents.
takinitSLEAZEE
Legend
Loyaler
Totally agree. Case and point I cracked limping aces w/KJ one night right after a rvr-beat. I was short-stacked and saw an opportunity and went for it. I got 3 callers including the AA which was the bettor to my right. He shoved and got a caller. He won his side and I won the main.
KevinRBTV
Rock Star
Bronze Level
Just in this second 😑
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JeffSBrito
Rock Star
Silver Level
Hello!
I generally avoid getting into a limping hand with high pairs in poker. This is because these hands are very high value and deserve a more aggressive approach. I choose to raise before the flop to build the pot and reduce the number of players, increasing my chances of winning the hand. By avoiding the limp, I can protect my high pair and have more control over the course of the game.
GL
I generally avoid getting into a limping hand with high pairs in poker. This is because these hands are very high value and deserve a more aggressive approach. I choose to raise before the flop to build the pot and reduce the number of players, increasing my chances of winning the hand. By avoiding the limp, I can protect my high pair and have more control over the course of the game.
GL
Goggelheimer
Visionary
Platinum Level
Limping is not the way a tight/loose aggressive player should consider very often. Although is seems to be pretty standard on low stakes cash or tournament games.
Perhaps players think that raising a hand polarizes the range too much, i don't really know the reason.
Trapping with big pairs is not the way I like to play. And postflop you have to work much harder, mostly your big pair hand has to improve to trips at least.
And if you are on a draw heavy flop you mostly have a big problem if its a multiway hand with 3 or more other players, these are common situations with limped pots, in that hand. Raising big or reraise all in with KK+ should reduce the field.
Perhaps players think that raising a hand polarizes the range too much, i don't really know the reason.
Trapping with big pairs is not the way I like to play. And postflop you have to work much harder, mostly your big pair hand has to improve to trips at least.
And if you are on a draw heavy flop you mostly have a big problem if its a multiway hand with 3 or more other players, these are common situations with limped pots, in that hand. Raising big or reraise all in with KK+ should reduce the field.
KevinRBTV
Rock Star
Bronze Level
This is absolutely the right way to play them but the chance of getting no action ist possible
