How to play KK in cash games?

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Raise double or triple the big blind to push a few speculative hands off.
Play them like any lower pair, look to make a set. If the flop is 3c 7d 10d, and you dont have a King of diamonds, if there are at least 3 people in the pot, I advise a raise to push any non hitting hands off. then if the final diamond does come, be careful, if it doesnt come, you are likely ahead unless they have hit a set. if the board is pairing, be careful for trips, or a house, especially if you havent made your set.
 
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What sort of sample size are we talking about here? How many total hands have you tracked? How many KK have you been dealt? How many times were you up against AA?

If you are getting the majority of your money in preflop with the second best hand in hold em and losing, then just chalk it up to variance and have faith it'll come around. If most of the money you have lost has been going in after the flop, then there is very likely some room for improvement on the way that you are playing them.
 
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You need to play always beautiful, so beautiful that it would not be a shame that you lost!
 
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So on my pokertracker my biggest losing hand is KK, im over 2000 big blinds down with it and its the single hand thats stopping me from being a profitable player.
So how i play them is just like AA or QQ, natural pre flop raise if first to act, re raise if the same has opened the betting. Now the problem i have is that either everyone folds and i win very little, the other player has AA and i dont get lucky, or the player gets a flush on the river. Im obviously losing massive pots here, and it needs sorting out, im tempted to just fold them and move onto the next hand to avoid the bs. I also find when i have AA and they have KK they king almost always comes on the river...
Any advice please i will be so grateful, im up with my other pocket pairs, just KK that im totally haunted by



I’m thinking what kind of raise do you do in which position?

When I have premium cards I like to raise about 4BB OOP and 3BB in position. I’m thinking maybe you are raising either too much or not enough.

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So on my pokertracker my biggest losing hand is KK, im over 2000 big blinds down with it and its the single hand thats stopping me from being a profitable player.
So how i play them is just like AA or QQ, natural pre flop raise if first to act, re raise if the same has opened the betting. Now the problem i have is that either everyone folds and i win very little, the other player has AA and i dont get lucky, or the player gets a flush on the river. Im obviously losing massive pots here, and it needs sorting out, im tempted to just fold them and move onto the next hand to avoid the bs. I also find when i have AA and they have KK they king almost always comes on the river...
Any advice please i will be so grateful, im up with my other pocket pairs, just KK that im totally haunted by


Just thinking on my drive home as well, do you ever fold your kings? There are times I’ve even folded AA because of how the card fell.

Even premium starting hands can become next to worthless on the flop. Ideally you are looking for the flop to improve your KK i.e

<Flop>
K T T

Just my 2p’s worth...
 
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If the opponents I'm playing against has the stacks close to mine o bigger, and I'm the first to talk, I raise and hope to be called to see the flop (or I call a reraise) and if the pot was already raised or bet, I call and see the flop, and play accordingly. But if the pot contenders have small stacks, I bet or raise, reraise and shove in order to win, at least, the second pot.
 
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it should only be a bad phase. Playing aggressively is the best form most of the time.

 
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Play aggressive pre-flop and then aggressive flop.
 
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For AA KK QQ, my advise for us is that we bet bet bet! Its always +EV
 
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All depends on the Bank if bankroll allows it you can take the risk with KK, and if you play on the last money that might not be true, I would rather play KK, all in very dangerous, so I often throw them into the Cache, few people go all in with such cards as toirah in the Cache oybchno go with AA, QQ, KK, AK so even to run into AK very badly, it is better to lose if the case concerns an all in, again I say it all depends on bankroll and bet!
 
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An aggressive pre-flop should always be played. Cash game is much different from the tournament game and you need to know that. You do not need to raise 2 or 2.5 big blends on a cash game, but you can freely play more, even 5 or 6 times more than big blend. And slow play is very bad for a cash game, you should always charge your hand when you have strong cards. That's somebody's opinion, greetings!
 
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How long have you been playing poker?As someone wrote before: KK is a great starting hand, so try to put as much money in the pot as possible preflop. Postflop you just have to lern when to throw them away just like any other premium hand, if the board is favorable for you opponent. For example: you are utg and open KdKc 3bb, the button calls and everyone else folds. The flop comes 7h8h9d you c-bet and the btn raises.Playing for all your chips in a situation like that is almost never a good play. Look into some free programs like Equilab to define your opponents ranges and you will quickly find out which textures are good and bad for you.
 
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My opinion

King King are hole cards that should be respected this much. You just won with King King and won again. The next time you get them fold them. You have to remember each time you have King King they win about 60 percent of time. Hitting trips a third of the time. King King does lose. Calculate when it loses. Another way to tell is if aces havenyt flopped on table spread in a while and ace prolly coming be careful, however, it usually comes in the 40 percent lose factor so you got a heads up anyways.
 
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So on my pokertracker my biggest losing hand is KK, im over 2000 big blinds down with it and its the single hand thats stopping me from being a profitable player.
So how i play them is just like AA or QQ, natural pre flop raise if first to act, re raise if the same has opened the betting. Now the problem i have is that either everyone folds and i win very little, the other player has AA and i dont get lucky, or the player gets a flush on the river. Im obviously losing massive pots here, and it needs sorting out, im tempted to just fold them and move onto the next hand to avoid the bs. I also find when i have AA and they have KK they king almost always comes on the river...
Any advice please i will be so grateful, im up with my other pocket pairs, just KK that im totally haunted by


Immediately left the Cash tables and focus on MTT's :top:
 
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You want the pre-flop pot to be big enough so that that your opponent's hand is defined to the point where he could only have AK or a high pair. But with the exception of an Ace appearing on the flop, is there any way you would fold?
 
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I dont fool around with KK, it's all in or nothing, so if they want to play with me they can, but they better be ready to risk all their chips.
So on my pokertracker my biggest losing hand is KK, im over 2000 big blinds down with it and its the single hand thats stopping me from being a profitable player.
So how i play them is just like AA or QQ, natural pre flop raise if first to act, re raise if the same has opened the betting. Now the problem i have is that either everyone folds and i win very little, the other player has AA and i dont get lucky, or the player gets a flush on the river. Im obviously losing massive pots here, and it needs sorting out, im tempted to just fold them and move onto the next hand to avoid the bs. I also find when i have AA and they have KK they king almost always comes on the river...
Any advice please i will be so grateful, im up with my other pocket pairs, just KK that im totally haunted by
 
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Kk on cash for me

I do not have much experience in games for money, however I consider KK as a premium hand and always play aggressively.
 
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Thats what I was telling him, becasue I have called with 49s just becasue of a raise to see the slop and if I see it and hit an open dtaw to flush or some sort of straight, I always know they have a big pair and will go all in on a semi bluff to either make them fold it, or catch my card by the river if not turn.

I aint no shark, but I am a lion!
If all players are or become aggressive, the game becomes BINGO ....
My opinion: too many players play too aggressively.
 
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See in an MTT that just makes my mouth water, you raise that hand 3-4 times BB and I am calling and if I see a shot after the flop I am calling all in and if not I am going all in, either way we are gambling baby!
Raise double or triple the big blind to push a few speculative hands off.
Play them like any lower pair, look to make a set. If the flop is 3c 7d 10d, and you dont have a King of diamonds, if there are at least 3 people in the pot, I advise a raise to push any non hitting hands off. then if the final diamond does come, be careful, if it doesnt come, you are likely ahead unless they have hit a set. if the board is pairing, be careful for trips, or a house, especially if you havent made your set.
 
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KK is a top 3 hand(AA, AKS), im thinking you need a bigger hand sample size and then see again if a KK is losing hand for you.
 
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how to manage your bankroll

Hello friends, I want to share with you about the control of bankroll. Many players deposit and can not make a profit. I have suffered a lot. We had wonderful things to be with more than $ 300 in my bankroll, but for lack of a direction, I practically lost a lot, when my bankroll was high and played high bys type: $ 4.40, $ 2.20, $ 3.30 $ 1.10 $ 5.50 $ 7.50 and hj my best game and in tournaments $ 0.55 and sitg, $ 25 and $ 0.50 .


I played also a cash game, but I know I lost a lot of money to think to myself if I had drawn a direction and goal in games hj this with bankroll well we have to know our limits, to study to apply what we have learned so to leave to you this my expereiencia hj for one person who had a good bankroll to be only with crumbs and suffered to see mistakes, but we must raise our heads and move on, not to make the same mistakes, good luck to all good games,
 
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So on my pokertracker my biggest losing hand is KK, im over 2000 big blinds down with it and its the single hand thats stopping me from being a profitable player.
So how i play them is just like AA or QQ, natural pre flop raise if first to act, re raise if the same has opened the betting. Now the problem i have is that either everyone folds and i win very little, the other player has AA and i dont get lucky, or the player gets a flush on the river. Im obviously losing massive pots here, and it needs sorting out, im tempted to just fold them and move onto the next hand to avoid the bs. I also find when i have AA and they have KK they king almost always comes on the river...
Any advice please i will be so grateful, im up with my other pocket pairs, just KK that im totally haunted by


Make a significant pre-flop raise with KK. Then evaluate the community cards and play accordingly.
 
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