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donkeykiller
Enthusiast
Silver Level
I don't shove all-in with AK or AKs they are good drawing hands and that's just it they are drawing hands
alot of people get burnt shoving all-in with these hands becuase there dominated by any pair and dominated by anything when an A or K doesn't hit on the board . Usually I just pop it up to pot bet on preflop and I'll call a re-rasie to see a flop and if the flop does hit I bet pot and if it doesn't i'll make a 4-5x BB C-bet to take it down right there if i get a caller or a re rasies I'm check fold. You can lose an awfull lot of money with AK and AKs if you don't know what your doing.
alot of people get burnt shoving all-in with these hands becuase there dominated by any pair and dominated by anything when an A or K doesn't hit on the board . Usually I just pop it up to pot bet on preflop and I'll call a re-rasie to see a flop and if the flop does hit I bet pot and if it doesn't i'll make a 4-5x BB C-bet to take it down right there if i get a caller or a re rasies I'm check fold. You can lose an awfull lot of money with AK and AKs if you don't know what your doing.
WVHillbilly
Legend
Silver Level
Obviously you lose an awful lot of money with them then. Seriously did you even bother to read this thread before you posted? If not please read it, then you can post your retraction. If so please reread and/or take a reading comprehension course, before posting your retraction.
Irexes
Legend
Silver Level
Just wanted to say thanks for the post Alan. Playing 100nl FR I think there's a big difference in the application of the concepts to the levels you play and 6 max, but it gave me a huge amount of food for thought this evening while playing and I'm sure contributed to some better decision making in 3 and 4 bet pots.
Jagsti
I'm sweet enough!
Silver Level
I suppose as we have a mix of FR and 6max players, we should open up the debate of if/how we play AK differently. As a predominently 6max player these days, I'm more than happy getting it aipf with AK as the mixture of villains shoving ranges is pretty wide. When I played FR (over 150k hands) I had very little success getting it aipf, and I found most ppl's shoving pf range was basically QQ+.
Any thoughts on this?
Any thoughts on this?
BelgoSuisse
Legend
Silver Level
I think at FR it's really a lot more villain dependent because you do see some 2/2 nits with full stacks or 20/1 fishes who 3bet like 0.5% and against of those, i would actually fold AK to a 3bet as my standard line.
Also, at 100nl FR i find people who just fold to 3bets an indecent percentage of the time, so with position i think there's a bunch of value in 3betting a lower range of hands and flatting with AK. Also do that from the blinds from time to time and donk bet/bet/bet Axx boards only to be called down by AT in the CO who would have snap folded to a 3bet pre.
zachvac
Legend
Silver Level
In later positions it's pretty standard against semi-aggro regs. Good amount 3-bet 5%+. Against some regs you can probably 3-bet fold if they have a super-narrow 4-bet range but as mentioned above if you 4-bet you can't really fold and 4-betting AK is definitely profitable against most regs in late position or blinds. Probably level-dependent though because I remember folding AK at 50nl to most regs even just to 3-bets because their 3-bets were like AK/JJ+.
joos
Rock Star
Silver Level
Did not read the entire thread, sorry if I say something that has been mentioned before. As most 6max players I am getting it in with AK/AKs almost always against almost all tags. It gets little bit more marginal when its a fish or a nit (small 3b %) that 3b you. AK is a hand that needs to see 5 cards. There are times you can fold to tons of action but heads up i am almost always shipping it in. Almost everyone is 3b light these days and it is +ev just to take that money with a 4b and when you do get it in, you have great equity even against top of their range (ie JJ+/AK) Keep in mind that this opinion is all from a 6max standpoint