Duggs tries cash

[duggs]

pokerstars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

Hero (BB): $10.00
UTG: $25.92
MP: $4.31
CO: $10.00
BTN: $10.77
SB: $10.00

SB posts SB $0.05, Hero posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has 9d 9s

fold, MP raises to $0.25, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $10.00 and is all-in, MP calls $4.06 and is all-in

Flop: ($8.67, 2 players) Jc 2c 2s

Turn: ($8.67, 2 players) 4d

River: ($8.67, 2 players) Kd

Hero shows 9d 9s (Two Pair, Nines and Twos) (Pre 18%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
MP shows Td Tc (Two Pair, Tens and Twos) (Pre 82%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
MP wins $8.28

same again here, whats a good 4bet sizing, espec considering deeper stacks?

 

[duggs]

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

Hero (BB): $10.00
UTG: $25.92
MP: $4.31
CO: $10.00
BTN: $10.77
SB: $10.00

SB posts SB $0.05, Hero posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero XX

fold, MP raises to $0.25, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to .80c and gets it in.

whats our gii range v 40bb short stackers, what are our default assumptions about them?

 

[AlfieAA]

played a quick 1 hour session, 6 tables of 6max, i 4bet light too much,

down a whole buy in but think its been meh hands and lol sample



PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players

Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com



SB: $7.68

Hero (BB): $10.49

UTG: $9.02

CO: $9.70

BTN: $10.15



SB posts SB $0.05, Hero posts BB $0.10



Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has Kd Ks



fold, fold, fold, SB calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.40, SB raises to $0.80, Hero raises to $2.20, SB calls $1.40



Flop: ($4.40, 2 players) 8c 8s 7h

SB bets $4.20, Hero raises to $8.29 and is all-in, SB calls $1.28 and is all-in



Turn: ($15.36, 2 players) 7s



River: ($15.36, 2 players) Ac



SB shows As 8d (Full House, Eights full of Aces) (Pre 28%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)

Hero shows Kd Ks (Two Pair, Kings and Eights) (Pre 72%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)

SB wins $14.67



dunno what sizing to take on a 4bet here?

Your 4bets absolutely fine Imo, you got maximum value on the flop, its all you can do.......were you think that if you min 4bet he would come over the top with a 5bet then you GII?

 

[AlfieAA]

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

Hero (BB): $10.00
UTG: $25.92
MP: $4.31
CO: $10.00
BTN: $10.77
SB: $10.00

SB posts SB $0.05, Hero posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has 9d 9s

fold, MP raises to $0.25, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $10.00 and is all-in, MP calls $4.06 and is all-in

Flop: ($8.67, 2 players) Jc 2c 2s

Turn: ($8.67, 2 players) 4d

River: ($8.67, 2 players) Kd

Hero shows 9d 9s (Two Pair, Nines and Twos) (Pre 18%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
MP shows Td Tc (Two Pair, Tens and Twos) (Pre 82%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
MP wins $8.28

same again here, whats a good 4bet sizing, espec considering deeper stacks?

Duggs you've got $10 not 10 big blind in a tourney lol, what's with the 3bet shove?.....did you have a read on him as a spewer, was he tilting?....this seems like a tourney play rather than a cash game play.....maybe flat call his open raise to setmine or make it 0.75 or something

 

[duggs]

Oh oops I didn't mean to post that, I have max on my auto bets and misclicked, give me a sec and ill find the one I meant

 

[AlfieAA]

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com



Hero (BB): $10.00

UTG: $25.92

MP: $4.31

CO: $10.00

BTN: $10.77

SB: $10.00



SB posts SB $0.05, Hero posts BB $0.10



Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero XX



fold, MP raises to $0.25, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to .80c and gets it in.



whats our gii range v 40bb short stackers, what are our default assumptions about them?

Assumption is that its a russian, with a short stack strat....I googled it one time and said strat was in russian so that was where that investiagation ended......anyway......our GII range has to be strong here, he's prob got 77-TT,AQ-AK JJ-AA....but yeah sometimes they will snap call a shove or if they have the bottom of their fit or fold range then they will give it up

If he's got a medium PP then he will fold to your shove and he will let AQ go.......

 

[AlfieAA]

Oh oops I didn't mean to post that, I have max on my auto bets and misclicked, give me a sec and ill find the one I meant

Phew, I was getting worried there for a minute

 

[duggs]

Hero (SB): $13.37
BB: $22.79
UTG: $10.78
MP: $9.27
CO: $10.99
BTN: $10.00

Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has Qs Qd

fold, MP calls $0.10, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.50, BB raises to $0.90, fold, Hero raises to $2.00, BB calls $1.10

what should my 4bet sizing be?

 

[AlfieAA]

Hero (SB): $13.37

BB: $22.79

UTG: $10.78

MP: $9.27

CO: $10.99

BTN: $10.00



Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10



Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has Qs Qd



fold, MP calls $0.10, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.50, BB raises to $0.90, fold, Hero raises to $2.00, BB calls $1.10



what should my 4bet sizing be?

Judging by the limp it looks like a pocket pair 22-77....would prob open raise 88+ ofcourse he could have QJ,KJ non paint suited connectors or Axs......but it screams pocket pair.......anyway....depending on his aggression or lack of it you would have to juge your actions/sizes on that....if he's a standard fish then he will usually just call your raise, so it looks like a he's a drunk fish that will do anything.....if you raise then I raise, sort of thing, rather than being passive/station like a standard fish ya know......but yeah if you make the 4bet any higher than what you did then maybe he folds....so it looks about right imo.....yeah you could have min 4bet then he would min 5bet then min6,7,8 bet and maybe you should have tried that if you have a read on him.....otherwise its fine, you've got good equity against his open limp MP range here

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

4bet 3x, fish have a habit of min 3betting and flatting any 4bet so size up for value

 

[pocketehs]

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

Hero (BB): $10.00
UTG: $25.92
MP: $4.31
CO: $10.00
BTN: $10.77
SB: $10.00

SB posts SB $0.05, Hero posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero XX

fold, MP raises to $0.25, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to .80c and gets it in.

whats our gii range v 40bb short stackers, what are our default assumptions about them?

depends but I usually stack off TT+ / AQ+. Depend if its a fish or like a reg shortstacker though

 

[fletchdad]

depends but I usually stack off TT+ / AQ+. Depend if its a fish or like a reg shortstacker though

Is this range vs fish SS'er? I am not comfortable to GI w AQ or TT unless he is a fish. A reg from EP-MP wont GI with a wide range at all, and TT-AQ is not gonna be good a lot.

But it becomes pretty clear after a few orbits what our GI range can be. But vs unknown SS who I suspect is a reg, I am probably only stacking QQ+ and AK until I can see how he is playing.

 

[duggs]

pretty frustrating start, down 6bi, which is cool cause it still have $340 in the account so not having to drop any time soon, but not exactly how i wanted to start out. I want to say im running into the top of it but im not even sure.

what kind of hand sample do i need before i can post stats?

 

[duggs]

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

Hero (BB): $13.70
UTG: $9.58
CO: $12.96
BTN: $10.00
SB: $10.00

SB posts SB $0.05, Hero posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has Qh Ah

UTG calls $0.10, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.40, UTG calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.85, 2 players) 7h 6c 8h
Hero bets $0.40, UTG raises to $1.20, Hero raises to $3.10, UTG raises to $9.18 and is all-in, Hero calls $6.08

is this std or do people just b/c this flop?

 

[duggs]

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

MP: $12.56
Hero (CO): $10.00
BTN: $17.34
SB: $9.90
BB: $10.30
UTG: $10.30

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has 9c 9d

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.30, BTN raises to $0.80, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.75, 2 players) 5s Jh 9s
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.89, Hero raises to $2.10, BTN calls $1.21

Turn: ($5.95, 2 players) Jc
Hero bets $1.90, BTN calls $1.90

River: ($9.75, 2 players) 2s
Hero bets $5.20 and is all-in, fold

Hero wins $9.31

I think this sizing is really gross.

 

[duggs]

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

SB: $9.05
BB: $11.09
UTG: $10.50
Hero (CO): $11.34
BTN: $10.08

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has Ks 8s

fold, Hero raises to $0.30, BTN calls $0.30, SB calls $0.25, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.20, 4 players) As Jc 9s
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.50, BTN calls $0.50, fold, fold

Turn: ($2.20, 2 players) Js
Hero bets $1.30, BTN calls $1.30

River: ($4.80, 2 players) 6s
Hero bets $9.24 and is all-in,

can we overshove this river for value? dont see much worse than a spade calling and most of his combos contain 10s or Qs?

 

[duggs]

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: $10.00
Hero (SB): $10.00
BB: $30.88
UTG: $11.47

Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has Kd 3d

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.25, BB calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.50, 2 players) 7d 8s Ks
Hero bets $0.20, BB raises to $0.70, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.90, 2 players) 6s
Hero checks, BB bets $0.90, Hero calls $0.90

River: ($3.70, 2 players) 3h
Hero checks, BB bets $1.00, Hero raises to $3.50, BB raises to $9.90, Hero calls $4.65 and is all-in

is raise/calling this river spewy? at the time i thought 87 was most likely due to turn sizing but i guess there are sets and straights and flushes there to?

 

[duggs]

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

BB: $10.93
UTG: $13.43
MP: $44.69
CO: $15.51
BTN: $2.09
Hero (SB): $10.00

Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has Kc Kd

fold, MP raises to $0.30, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.00, fold, MP calls $0.70

Flop: ($2.10, 2 players) Qh 4c 6c
Hero bets $1.60, MP raises to $4.50, Hero calls $2.90

Turn: ($11.10, 2 players) 8d
Hero checks, MP bets $7.40, Hero calls $4.50 and is all-in

River: ($20.10, 2 players) Ad

was really torn on whether to shove the flop or just call and let him spew, unsure.

 

[duggs]

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

Hero (CO): $24.64
BTN: $17.76
SB: $4.35
BB: $10.00
UTG: $18.59
MP: $5.90

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has Ac Kh

UTG raises to $0.35, fold, Hero calls $0.35, fold, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.85, 2 players) 3s 2c 7s
UTG bets $0.45, Hero calls $0.45

Turn: ($1.75, 2 players) Tc
UTG bets $1.00, Hero calls $1.00

River: ($3.75, 2 players) Qh
UTG bets $2.05, Hero raises to $6.66,


this is spewy, called pre because he is super barrely and had a really high fold to 3bet and i hadnt had a good opportunity to 3bet on this table yet.

 

[duggs]

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

Hero (SB): $13.12
BB: $14.10
UTG: $11.46
BTN: $12.34

Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has Qc Qd

UTG raises to $0.30, fold, Hero calls $0.25, fold

Flop: ($0.70, 2 players) 9s 4s Ks
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.70, 2 players) 4h
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.60, Hero calls $0.60

River: ($2.90, 2 players) 6c
Hero checks, UTG bets $2.30, Hero calls $2.30

This guy was a nit so i didnt want to 3bet gii v him and dont think he ever raise/calls. on the river he only reps AK/KK/AA but i always forget that him repping 1 combo doesnt matter if he only ever has air. at the time i thought hands like AsQr and AhQs could triple here but i doubt it really.

 

[pocketehs]

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

MP: $12.56
Hero (CO): $10.00
BTN: $17.34
SB: $9.90
BB: $10.30
UTG: $10.30

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has 9c 9d

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.30, BTN raises to $0.80, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.75, 2 players) 5s Jh 9s
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.89, Hero raises to $2.10, BTN calls $1.21

Turn: ($5.95, 2 players) Jc
Hero bets $1.90, BTN calls $1.90

River: ($9.75, 2 players) 2s
Hero bets $5.20 and is all-in, fold

Hero wins $9.31

I think this sizing is really gross.

I want to make it like $3 OTF then like 60% on the turn and then we can get it in nicely by the river.

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

SB: $9.05
BB: $11.09
UTG: $10.50
Hero (CO): $11.34
BTN: $10.08

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has Ks 8s

fold, Hero raises to $0.30, BTN calls $0.30, SB calls $0.25, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.20, 4 players) As Jc 9s
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.50, BTN calls $0.50, fold, fold

Turn: ($2.20, 2 players) Js
Hero bets $1.30, BTN calls $1.30

River: ($4.80, 2 players) 6s
Hero bets $9.24 and is all-in,

can we overshove this river for value? dont see much worse than a spade calling and most of his combos contain 10s or Qs?

i dont think we can overshove the river here and expect to get called. depends on stats though? i probs just v bet like 3.75

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: $10.00
Hero (SB): $10.00
BB: $30.88
UTG: $11.47

Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has Kd 3d

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.25, BB calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.50, 2 players) 7d 8s Ks
Hero bets $0.20, BB raises to $0.70, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.90, 2 players) 6s
Hero checks, BB bets $0.90, Hero calls $0.90

River: ($3.70, 2 players) 3h
Hero checks, BB bets $1.00, Hero raises to $3.50, BB raises to $9.90, Hero calls $4.65 and is all-in

is raise/calling this river spewy? at the time i thought 87 was most likely due to turn sizing but i guess there are sets and straights and flushes there to?

yep i think its spewy dude. im just calling there. we beat like all his 2 pair hands. im not as much worried about sets as i am flushes i think though.

need stats imo

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

BB: $10.93
UTG: $13.43
MP: $44.69
CO: $15.51
BTN: $2.09
Hero (SB): $10.00

Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has Kc Kd

fold, MP raises to $0.30, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.00, fold, MP calls $0.70

Flop: ($2.10, 2 players) Qh 4c 6c
Hero bets $1.60, MP raises to $4.50, Hero calls $2.90

Turn: ($11.10, 2 players) 8d
Hero checks, MP bets $7.40, Hero calls $4.50 and is all-in

River: ($20.10, 2 players) Ad

was really torn on whether to shove the flop or just call and let him spew, unsure.

i struggle with this spot too but i probs just GII OTF cause we have backdoor flush

 

[duggs]

I want to make it like $3 OTF then like 60% on the turn and then we can get it in nicely by the river.

We can get it in pretty comfortably in 3 at current sizing, im wondering if we should be trying to get it in by the tur.

i dont think we can overshove the river here and expect to get called. depends on stats though? i probs just v bet like 3.75

Do you expect 2nd and 3rd nut flushes to fold?

yep i think its spewy dude. im just calling there. we beat like all his 2 pair hands. im not as much worried about sets as i am flushes i think though.

need stats imo

yup this is gross.

i struggle with this spot too but i probs just GII OTF cause we have backdoor flush

i feel like flatting lets him jam the turn with hands that possibly raise/fold but im not sure if its neglible or not.

 

[duggs]

Judging by the limp it looks like a pocket pair 22-77....would prob open raise 88+ ofcourse he could have QJ,KJ non paint suited connectors or Axs......but it screams pocket pair.......anyway....depending on his aggression or lack of it you would have to juge your actions/sizes on that....if he's a standard fish then he will usually just call your raise, so it looks like a he's a drunk fish that will do anything.....if you raise then I raise, sort of thing, rather than being passive/station like a standard fish ya know......but yeah if you make the 4bet any higher than what you did then maybe he folds....so it looks about right imo.....yeah you could have min 4bet then he would min 5bet then min6,7,8 bet and maybe you should have tried that if you have a read on him.....otherwise its fine, you've got good equity against his open limp MP range here

BB cold 4bet me

 

[Ducky7]

needs a more inventive title name imo

in though

True coz "hi im 9k" is awe inspiring

in also

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

well you're not a doctor, and since you've started the thread you havent moved up so there's that