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Rising Star
Bronze Level
I feel a little lost about what limits i should be playing, and confused about the correct way to play a winning session.
I am currently playing .02/.04 Limit Hold'em 10 ring on pokerstars
A typical Session of 60 hands (1hour) playing the way i think poker should be played:
Hand 1 my BB I usually win this hand or my SB ___________ +6.0BB
Hand 2 my SB if i lost my BB i usually win this one
Hands 3-29:
Raise Preflop with premium hands (like AKs/o, QQ,) ________ -3.0BB
--couple missed flop continuation bets (small Bets) ________ -1.0BB
Limp in on Button/cutoff with hands like (98s,JTs,QTs) _____ -1.5BB
--fold on flop or turn (drawing odds not correct) __________ -1.0BB
Hand 30 (AQs finnally wins) ____________________________ +6.0BB
Currently I am _______________________________________ -0.5BB
Hands 31-60 Will pretty much be the same thing and by th 60th hand i should be -1BB or -1.5BB
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The reason for this negative outcome is that in a micro level like .02/.04 you cannot rely on bluffs, semibluffs, or moves to give you the edge of winning when the cards wont.
I've developed a way to (win) kind of. After I win 1 or 2 hands in the beggining(1-5hands) i'll sit for one more orbit and leave before I'm the BB again. I'll sit at another table and do the same thing. This way I leave with about +6.0BB most of the time. After 1 hour and a total of about 60 hands i'll be up between 9-20 BB/hour sometimes more. Its the only possible way (i think) to win at .02/.04 because:
1. a raise preflop won't thin out the limpers
2. a continuation bet on the flop will almost always have more than 2 callers
3. the players have no starting hand requirements
4. they have no conception of pot odds.
I've been told I shouldn't change my game. Not to raise preflop with premium hands in the long run will lose you money, but at this table stake i think i lose more than i gain. If i play REAL poker i'll end up down a couple BB after a session. And I don't want to get into a bad habbit of playing like the manic fish, so I play REAL poker while jumping from 6-9 tables an hour.
bluffing is almost out of the question at this stake because of the abundance of calling stations (if you train a missed AKs) you will most likely lose to someone playing 25o who-first thought it was a good enough hand to cold call your raise preflop in early, and -thought it was good enough to showdown with bottom pair on a board of J 9 2 Q 7, others in the pot won't even have a pair and showdown with 6 high, or those who will NEVER fold if they hold an ace no matter what the kicker.
I don't know how else to play tight agressive poker when these people obviously don't know how to play.
Is the way i'm playing poker in order to win wrong? What should I do? I'm scared that if i move up in limits, i may lose just the same. That maybe its me, not the fish. My bankroll always pretty much comes $1 shy of $30(Bandroll needed to play .05/.10 (300xBB)) I can deposit more into my Bankroll but I've been told i need to BUILD it.
I want to be able to play poker normally... its exhausting to change so many tables within an hour just to be up. Or is this a normal session for most people?
I am currently playing .02/.04 Limit Hold'em 10 ring on pokerstars
A typical Session of 60 hands (1hour) playing the way i think poker should be played:
Hand 1 my BB I usually win this hand or my SB ___________ +6.0BB
Hand 2 my SB if i lost my BB i usually win this one
Hands 3-29:
Raise Preflop with premium hands (like AKs/o, QQ,) ________ -3.0BB
--couple missed flop continuation bets (small Bets) ________ -1.0BB
Limp in on Button/cutoff with hands like (98s,JTs,QTs) _____ -1.5BB
--fold on flop or turn (drawing odds not correct) __________ -1.0BB
Hand 30 (AQs finnally wins) ____________________________ +6.0BB
Currently I am _______________________________________ -0.5BB
Hands 31-60 Will pretty much be the same thing and by th 60th hand i should be -1BB or -1.5BB
.The reason for this negative outcome is that in a micro level like .02/.04 you cannot rely on bluffs, semibluffs, or moves to give you the edge of winning when the cards wont.
I've developed a way to (win) kind of. After I win 1 or 2 hands in the beggining(1-5hands) i'll sit for one more orbit and leave before I'm the BB again. I'll sit at another table and do the same thing. This way I leave with about +6.0BB most of the time. After 1 hour and a total of about 60 hands i'll be up between 9-20 BB/hour sometimes more. Its the only possible way (i think) to win at .02/.04 because:
1. a raise preflop won't thin out the limpers
2. a continuation bet on the flop will almost always have more than 2 callers
3. the players have no starting hand requirements
4. they have no conception of pot odds.
I've been told I shouldn't change my game. Not to raise preflop with premium hands in the long run will lose you money, but at this table stake i think i lose more than i gain. If i play REAL poker i'll end up down a couple BB after a session. And I don't want to get into a bad habbit of playing like the manic fish, so I play REAL poker while jumping from 6-9 tables an hour.
bluffing is almost out of the question at this stake because of the abundance of calling stations (if you train a missed AKs) you will most likely lose to someone playing 25o who-first thought it was a good enough hand to cold call your raise preflop in early, and -thought it was good enough to showdown with bottom pair on a board of J 9 2 Q 7, others in the pot won't even have a pair and showdown with 6 high, or those who will NEVER fold if they hold an ace no matter what the kicker.
I don't know how else to play tight agressive poker when these people obviously don't know how to play.
Is the way i'm playing poker in order to win wrong? What should I do? I'm scared that if i move up in limits, i may lose just the same. That maybe its me, not the fish. My bankroll always pretty much comes $1 shy of $30(Bandroll needed to play .05/.10 (300xBB)) I can deposit more into my Bankroll but I've been told i need to BUILD it.
I want to be able to play poker normally... its exhausting to change so many tables within an hour just to be up. Or is this a normal session for most people?
