Cbetting in Limit = moneyhole?

[Marklar]

im looking at my 6max limit graph (fav game). $.25/$.50 stakes, and i'm looking at my showdown winnings vs non showdown winnings. It's a constant decline because bluffing doesn't work as well. I got about +$386 showdown winnings vs -$230 for NSD for a net +$156 over 5700 hands.

Like my NL game I cbet 100% and often second barrel the turn especially if I have good outs. Many players at these limits don't fold to Cbets and call with nearly anything, backdoor flush draws seem to be their favorites.

Anyway if I slowdown on my cbets do you think it will affect anything much?? I mean obviously my NSD winnings will improve but it could also affect my SD winnings as the pots will be smaller when I do make my draw or improve my AK, etc.

Thoughts?

 

[lektrikguy]

Absolutely. If I get a caller and see no raises I have to think I've got the best hand or the other guy is just trying to draw out on me. If I see a raise or reraise I have to think twice about my draw. Too much money in jeopardy to fish for a hand means I gotta let it go. If you can't decide to bet or raise, raise it. Like Doyle says, most of the poker is played on the flop. Be aggressive if you think you can make the best hand or at least look like it. Put out an aggressive table image from the start and you'll make them respect your raises.

 

[WurlyQ]

Comparing showdown winnings and nonshowdown winnings is a bad way to analyze your play because you should be losing much more from mucked hands because you couldn't continue than the amount you win from getting everyone else to fold (unless you are playing at an exceptionally tight table). If this isn't the case, you are either not calling enough from the big blind or you are showing down too many losing hands.

You should almost always be c-betting (there are exceptions when the flop is terrible and the pot is multi way or if you tried to steal with a subpar hand and have a passive station in the blind, etc) regardless of whether or not you hit the flop. Good things that can happen include:
-stations call you with worse hands
-you take down the pot immediately including folding weak hands that are ahead of you (think c-betting AK on a QJ5r board getting something like 66 to fold)
-it buys you a free card when it checks through on the turn against someone that was planning to c/r (obv you would need position here)

You should be more worried about maximizing the probability that you win the pot and getting the most value out of the hand when you have a good hand rather than worry about your sd vs non-sd winnings.

Oh, and as a disclaimer, you won't go too far from wrong by never bluffing at .25/.50. However, c-betting is primarily for value, not for bluffing.