Buy-in Level in Cash games

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Hi all.

I'm playing low stakes Cash games on pokerstars. Usually I buying in with lowest amount possible, 80 cents. I have spotted that doesn't change my winnings very often and decreasing the amount i might lose, which happened somewhat often when I started.

What is your approach? Do you enter The table with maximum avaliable and why? I would like to know:)
 
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full stack so we can play until the river and practice with our post flop plays
 
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Hi all.

I'm playing low stakes Cash games on PokerStars. Usually I buying in with lowest amount possible, 80 cents. I have spotted that doesn't change my winnings very often and decreasing the amount i might lose, which happened somewhat often when I started.

What is your approach? Do you enter The table with maximum avaliable and why? I would like to know:)

this is a strategy oba if you have a tight bankroll, or if you have a very aggressive strategy, type "ready to go all-in". Otherwise it is not the appropriate idea to enter the cash game...
 
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A noticeable plus for a short stack is only that you will not make expensive mistakes. But, it seems to me, there are more minuses.
 
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I like to enter with full stack being able to get the most out of a good hand, also lets you play more comfortable in the hand doing the appropriate bets without hesitation is my opinion, of course when I first started I played with 80 cents but now I like more with full stack
 
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The problem with sitting on a stack of only around 40BB is, that it is worthless seeing the flop with small pairs for set value or with suited connectors in the hope of making a big hand. Because if you hit the baord big, you don't get paird of big.
 
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I like to enter with full stack being able to get the most out of a good hand, also lets you play more comfortable in the hand doing the appropriate bets without hesitation is my opinion, of course when I first started I played with 80 cents but now I like more with full stack


The problem is that I don't really have a hesitation to go all-in, so I'm losing all my table cash. So propably I should have tighten up? :)
 
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I can't afford to play big buy-in cash tables. Therefore, if I sit down at the cash table, I take no more than 1.6 dollars.
 
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Woah, I took whole 2 dollars, and I left the table with 7,20, so it was worth it :p
 
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I used to be afraid of losing a lot of money, so I played with a short stack. But now I play with a full stack as it allows me to win more on good hands and bluff.
 
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Hi all.

I'm playing low stakes Cash games on PokerStars. Usually I buying in with lowest amount possible, 80 cents. I have spotted that doesn't change my winnings very often and decreasing the amount i might lose, which happened somewhat often when I started.

Short stack - (80 cents, with 1/2 blinds in 40 Big blinds) - plays entirely different than deep stack (standard buy in of 200 would be 100 Big blinds). Short stack play is a simpler strategy due to the lower 'stack to pot ratio' (SPR) increasing the value of overpairs and top pair top kicker, and reducing the value of weaker draws.

Whether to play short stack or deep stack is purely a personal preference, one or the other isn't "better". There might be some rake implications at small stakes that might favor playing deeper stacks.
 
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I used to be afraid of losing a lot of money, so I played with a short stack. But now I play with a full stack as it allows me to win more on good hands and bluff.


It is clear that a smaller stack reduces the risk of loss. However, especially with a short stack you should play very aggressively and that is difficult if you are afraid to expose yourself to variance.
 
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99% of the time someone who enters the table with a short stack is an afraid one or just one who wants to gamble fast and just stay in the game if he manage to double up fast or leave if he lose. Gets tagged instantly as a... someone who doesn't take the game seriously and is here for fun.
 
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Hi all.

I'm playing low stakes Cash games on PokerStars. Usually I buying in with lowest amount possible, 80 cents. I have spotted that doesn't change my winnings very often and decreasing the amount i might lose, which happened somewhat often when I started.

What is your approach? Do you enter The table with maximum avaliable and why? I would like to know:)


Hey Papadejro, great question.

This has a lot to do with your comfort level of playing with different stack sizes. If you excel at playing with a shorter stack it may make sense to buy in with 40-60 big blinds.

If on the other hand you are very comfortable playing with a deep stack then buying in for 150-200-250 big blinds (or whatever the table allows) may be the best move.

Here is a video I made that discusses how to adjust your play with different stack sizes (hope it helps you)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUVQGobSCQY?t=694

And here is a basic video I made on money management I made as well that certainly helps with making these decisions. The idea behind this is playing with enough 'buyins' behind so that you never risk losing your entire bankroll. This helps to reduce a lot of emotional pressure and stress that comes with playing outside your limits.


Hope you find value in watching these and they help you find your sweet spot for buying in at the poker tables!

Cheers!!!
 
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I like this strategy and when I play, I use this same strategy, I think it doesn't interfere with the gains and helps to have less losses.
 
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I never use the most, although I agree with my earnings, but I learned that it only comes to 1 million cents in cents, I earn little, on the other hand, I don't lose much
 
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Hey Papadejro, great question.

This has a lot to do with your comfort level of playing with different stack sizes. If you excel at playing with a shorter stack it may make sense to buy in with 40-60 big blinds.

If on the other hand you are very comfortable playing with a deep stack then buying in for 150-200-250 big blinds (or whatever the table allows) may be the best move.

Here is a video I made that discusses how to adjust your play with different stack sizes (hope it helps you)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUVQGobSCQY?t=694

And here is a basic video I made on money management I made as well that certainly helps with making these decisions. The idea behind this is playing with enough 'buyins' behind so that you never risk losing your entire bankroll. This helps to reduce a lot of emotional pressure and stress that comes with playing outside your limits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKlN0ceNYLk

Hope you find value in watching these and they help you find your sweet spot for buying in at the poker tables!

Cheers!!!

I will look into it for surę.
 
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I started with 4$ on pokerstars and I can relate to your struggles. I used to play smallest stack due to tiny butkroll but now I think it's just pointless and hardly winning strategy. You kinda play only from math stand point, you wait a bet and raise and then you move in with AQ hoping nobody has aces or kings. This way you will never learn to play post flop or to read opponents hands. And although I beleive if you put anough math research into it you could make small profit you will end up playing like a robot depending your play on % of pot size and players left behind to act. My advice is if you have at least 10 buyins play cash games and use "cash out" option. Yes it does cost you 1% of the pot but gambling is not something you want with a tiny bankroll. So until you hit 20-30 buyns use cash out, also try regular PLO tables. Players there play omaha like holdem and usually overestimate their hands, so wait for nuts and stack them. And in case if you have like ULTRA small bankroll (10$ or less) you better play 0.25$ spin n go's, there are just gamlbling fun players going all in with any 2 cards. Good luck!
 
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