+1, took a 1table shot at 6nl myself the other night just seeing what it was all about and think you may have sat for a bit and then left. I ended up stacking two fish in the same hand after and table died so I tucked that profit in my br and went back to mixing some 2/4nl lol.
I'm almost actually rolled @ 20bi for 4nl on there now after some decent 2/4nl sessions this weekend. Probably going to focus on 4nl completely as only being able to buyin for 50bb at the 2nl tables is driving me a little nuts.
welcome in all, ain't been playing much of anything lately. Wife and pooch arrived last week so just trying to get situated and figure out when I'll manage to get in any grind time ........ I'll be fitting some in at some point, and if not be starting to review previous sessions although the last few I played went fairly standard....also doing some reading/studying of cash game books so am hoping to get back on the feltz and start doing better and dealing with tilt better soon.
I don't know why I do what I do sometimes on the subject of tilt as realize how stupid it is to jump stakes regardless of win or loss, and it would be even worse now that I'm more restricted on time to grind than i used to be. Have been dealing with not doing it better but it shouldn't be so difficult as its being for me, I want to have success grinding cash and I know I never will unless I can eliminate this thing from my game that has me doing the jumping stakes........guess this is certainly something I can work on while not having much time to play at the moment (time to do as planned and "study" the mental game book).
Take it easy all, hopefully won't be long before I'm back doing some grinding after I figure out when I'm able to do so.
Yeah i have that done on stars, but its all or nothing on other sites. Had been doing alright with it even on other sites lately but in a stupid moment did some major damage to my 888 br that had been building nicely grinding through 2/4 and shotting 6nl.
At least its just damanged and not busted and its back to just 2nl when i figure out when I can find the time to get back on any kind of a grind.
That restriction is one thing I really like about stars, but just wish i would stop being so stupid and doing it without the restriction because its certainly stunting and preventing me from moving along the cash grind like I'd been trying and I know I can get there and feel I have been making improvements in my game already but then this just kills my spirits after the work I put in building it up to shotting 6nl .
I certainly need to correct this mental leak or there will be little to no point working on anything else effecting my cash game play.
Dave post some more hands where you either won or lost a significant amount.
Tilt is caused primarily by losing. If we can see something in the way you are playing hands it may help. We need to see some hands to help you buddy.
Dave post some more hands where you either won or lost a significant amount.
Tilt is caused primarily by losing. If we can see something in the way you are playing hands it may help. We need to see some hands to help you buddy.
Yeah i am hoping to sit with the computer and go through some hands the week so will be posting some....the other night i was probably just playing when i should have been sleeping as I had actually managed to claw my way back to even in a bad session before the fiasco happened that I mentioned above.........my next post up itt will have some hands some evening this week. Thanks
So finally sat today and reviewed some hands i had been flagging, just gone through the stars flagged hands (got some from 888 and carbon as well that will review and see whats to post eventually) and will be posting a few.
I have the last few days moved back to FR deep tables on stars, and its going well again finally and still play 6max on 888 and carbon and eventually again on stars but sticking fr deep for now. On this note however the hands will be a combo of 6max and some fr.
Hand 5: (this hand sucked, should have gone bigger on the turn and of course river was spew but other than possibly AA with the spade I didn't feel like the opponent was having a spade and more likely a possible set and felt checking the river would certainly see a possible bluff shove......think my biggest mistake in the hand is not better more on the turn)
Further to my earlier comment on moving to fr, gotta love turning things around in a huge way over the last 5 sessions since i got back on the stars grind , and although feel the nasty variance i was hitting on the downswing also feel I am playing a more solid game as well.
Dave Hand 9, I didn't have to look at the spoiler to know this was AJ. The min raise on the turn followed by the shove OTR is almost always the nuts when done by a player with an ag factor less than 2.5. Look out for this...
hand 10
SB looks like a preflop agg merchant who is rubbish post flop. Once he checks the turn there are two ways to play. Betting out will TID the majority of the time and i'd always do that with something like tptk to avoid letting him catch up. Here with trips I think our hand is strong enough to give him a free card and deleveraging the hand adds deception. We are much more likely to win another decent sized bet on the river here if we check this turn. He might even lead out on the river even if not he will likely call half pot with any half decent pair.
Hand 8 We fold?
What are you ranging him here with then?
Villian is VPIP: 6.06, PFR: 6.06 already shaping up to be a rock, especially 6 handed. Presumably you are giving him a flush here but what cards? He would probably raise any AQ hand preflop, which leaves AT-A9 in diamonds which is a pretty narrow range. In my experience rocks just dont limp suited connectors they play their decent pairs and thats about it. If they do play connectors it is KQ QJ KJ in late position but two of these cards are on the board here. The passive way he played the hand suggests the K gave him something maybe two pair, the only really possible hand that beats us could be the AdTd so I would at least call.
Hand 7
You have to narrow his range substantially after he calls the big turn bet. Sure at these stakes he might have an overpair to the board but A4 55 also look likely. I check call any small river bet. Check fold to larger bets. One of the keys here is to look at his post flop aggression levels. It they are high then call, if low you can save your money.
The mantra don't go broke with 1 pair fits nicely here.Also Caro tip 2 in this link http://www.poker1.com/archives/32527/unexplained-tips-major-poker-profit
Dave Hand 9, I didn't have to look at the spoiler to know this was AJ. The min raise on the turn followed by the shove OTR is almost always the nuts when done by a player with an ag factor less than 2.5. Look out for this...
hand 10
SB looks like a preflop agg merchant who is rubbish post flop. Once he checks the turn there are two ways to play. Betting out will TID the majority of the time and i'd always do that with something like tptk to avoid letting him catch up. Here with trips I think our hand is strong enough to give him a free card and deleveraging the hand adds deception. We are much more likely to win another decent sized bet on the river here if we check this turn. He might even lead out on the river even if not he will likely call half pot with any half decent pair.
Certainly agree on both accounts, the QT should have been an easy laydown on the river shove.....on that note I updated my hud yesterday to include some more stats as previously it was very basic only having vpip/pfr/3bet..fcb/cb/hands i believe it was as was a basic one i found useful when grinding stt's and just hadn't taken the time to update it even though I had been meaning to lately with having rearead ctm and then mss.
yeah in hand 10 i hadn't taken the time to fully think it through and as soon as I hit the bet button my thoughts were the same as yours, it seems i acted too quickly without thinking on the hand.
Hand 8 We fold?
What are you ranging him here with then?
Villian is VPIP: 6.06, PFR: 6.06 already shaping up to be a rock, especially 6 handed. Presumably you are giving him a flush here but what cards? He would probably raise any AQ hand preflop, which leaves AT-A9 in diamonds which is a pretty narrow range. In my experience rocks just dont limp suited connectors they play their decent pairs and thats about it. If they do play connectors it is KQ QJ KJ in late position but two of these cards are on the board here. The passive way he played the hand suggests the K gave him something maybe two pair, the only really possible hand that beats us could be the AdTd so I would at least call.
Hand 7
You have to narrow his range substantially after he calls the big turn bet. Sure at these stakes he might have an overpair to the board but A4 55 also look likely. I check call any small river bet. Check fold to larger bets. One of the keys here is to look at his post flop aggression levels. It they are high then call, if low you can save your money.
The mantra don't go broke with 1 pair fits nicely here.Also Caro tip 2 in this link http://www.poker1.com/archives/32527/unexplained-tips-major-poker-profit
Yeah i kinda got married to the big pair on this one, shame on me i know because looking at anyone else with this hand posted i'd have indicated an easy hand to get away from yet as is one of my issues sometimes i didn't take my own advice.
Thanks for the feedback on the hands, much appreciated. Been playing quite a bit since i switched to fr deep and have some hands from there as well but have a bunch of others besides these at 6max to post yet (this is what happens when i go almost a month without doing any amount of review on hands I have flagged for review).
hand 6
Imo a good fold, he is getting most of his stack in here and you only have one pair, loads of hands that beat you and impossible to range him. 444, 2 pair, a straight all possible.
hand 5, I can see why you took the pot odds buts its a dog meat hand, I would still have folded pre as you are never going to win often enough to justify even the 2 bb.. I have been talking about seeing people get out-flushed every session playing suited junk in the polished poker thread. Even if you make the flush you can still be crushed by a better flush, hopefully an expensive lesson learned.
Hand 4 You found a way to win the hand oop from a likely equity dog so well done. Calling the 3 bet with 66 against his stats was still dubious imo. Whether or not I call would depend almost totally in the player read on the raiser. How often does he 3bet and go to showdown would be key for me.
Hand 3 you might have been able to get his full stack at the end if you had bet the flop. He has the perfect hand to raise a fishy looking donk bet from you. Don't slow play here, he raised pre so he is unlikely to go away to almost any flop bet by you. At these stakes you get your value by betting not slow playing oop. When he sees the hand down and notes that you donked with a set you have liberty to donk lead into him and others with weaker holdings and get some folds.
If he doesn't have a king you are never going to win that much on the hand but if he does give him a reason to raise.
Hand 2 well played...agree just let this semi maniac try to push you out, perfect rope a dope hand. Don't raise and alert him to the strength of your hand.
Hand 1 a cooler I wouldn't have got away from it either.
888 is quite soft, thing about there that sucks is the regular 2nl tables are all short can only buyin 50bb max but i have been cleaning up on them when i play. I hope I can soon cleanup on 2nl anywhere
August is over, September is here and I'm still doing the cash grind so have been managing to stick with it so far and grind through some rough spots.
A few days ago, 5 maybe, I moved 25bi of 2nl over to ftp to grind there as had an email for a bonus I figured it would be worth attempting to grind at least part of it out. 5kftp for 200$ but doubt I'll hit that as havn't been mm much due to just playing on the laptop so 6tables max.
I started obv with 2nl, mixed some reg and rush and through in a 5nl table as well and after having grinded probably only 12k hands or so as of last night was mixing 5nl and 10nl and am rolled at 20bi of 10nl atm....so its going well in other words, thanks to a couple of major whales (one in particular that I stacked 5 times on a 5nl 6max table).
So keeping on grinding in September, don't really have any solid goals atm other than to keep grinding and improve.
I can't imagine you will have any problem grinding 10nl on 888. I was on there last week and there were 2-3 fish with stacks 3-5$ on every table. Now you have the basics from the blackrain book under your belt I expect you to crush 10nl.
For the last two months I've jumped from 10 to 25nl and the occasional 50nl table and although Im winning at around 8-9 bb per 100 hands I've not made as much in the last two months as I made playing 10nl in June where I crushed 10nl for 50 buyins with some serious bum hunting.
I can't imagine you will have any problem grinding 10nl on 888. I was on there last week and there were 2-3 fish with stacks 3-5$ on every table. Now you have the basics from the blackrain book under your belt I expect you to crush 10nl.
For the last two months I've jumped from 10 to 25nl and the occasional 50nl table and although Im winning at around 8-9 bb per 100 hands I've not made as much in the last two months as I made playing 10nl in June where I crushed 10nl for 50 buyins with some serious bum hunting.
Yeah, recently been grinding on FTP....but similar there have come accross some major whales that even go full stack on the deep tables and one guy lost 5 buyins just to me before he up and left. Lots of tight passive calling stations i'v come accross as well.....888 like you mention is huge fishtown but havn't played much there lately.
I do hope things continue to go well, even tilt wise i'm handling some beats better as sick as they are sometimes. Sounds like a heck of a crushing it in June for ya, and even doing well at the 25nl it sounds.....my issue atm is volume on ftp as never many tables running so I figure once I'm done grinding attempts at a current bonus I'll be shipping back to stars and grind the 2/5nl deep tables there again.
Re the mss book if nothing else at this point that I have been implementing from that its with using my hud better than ever with checking the af and exploiting people who f3b all the time and such so am certainly working on aspects of the game that will be of benefit as I move up the limits.
Best of luck on your continued grind as well. Primarily I'm glad I have been sticking it through rather than giving up when it runs bad and going back to the stt's as have done on cash attempts in the past but know improving my cash game play will help in all varieties of pokerz.