Alucard's Cash Journal - 5NL to 10NL

[Keith_MM]

Hello alucard, im not a pro or something but my play would be like this:

I would re-raise the river bet, because only things that beat you are stronger sets which are unlikely here as I think QQ and AA would 3bet pre even when he is oop. Jacks might however just flat but I dont think they would flat very often. A straight also seems unlike here, I think he is either valuebetting set of deuces or he hit his second pair on the river.

EDIT: I also think he would not check the nuts on the river very often. I think you are huge favorite to have the best hand.


I might be also utterly wrong. Anybody more experienced than me?

reraising the river bet is worst option here . we're 200+bb deep which will widen Sb s range preflop and add in lots of implied odds type hands (suited connectors and gappers)which brings KT and 54s into the equation

If we reraise river , we fold out his bluffs and stand the chance of being shoved on for 200bbs when we don't know that we have the nuts .I think call river >fold > reraising as he could be check raising two pairs that we beat giving us enough combos to call with combined with potential bluffs

 

[Beanfacekilla]

reraising the river bet is worst option here . we're 200+bb deep which will widen Sb s range preflop and add in lots of implied odds type hands (suited connectors and gappers)which brings KT and 54s into the equation

If we reraise river , we fold out his bluffs and stand the chance of being shoved on for 200bbs when we don't know that we have the nuts .I think call river >fold > reraising as he could be check raising two pairs that we beat giving us enough combos to call with combined with potential bluffs

I like this man. Well said. I was def leaning towards calling anyway, but this just helped me realize it more.

 

[Ahoy]

I guess I still need to learn a lot. Thanks for correcting me.

 

[Alucard]

Overbet done right?

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PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 92.4 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
Hero (SB): 289.4 BB
BB: 104.4 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
UTG: 134.6 BB (VPIP: 27.78, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 19)
MP: 264.4 BB (VPIP: 25.69, PFR: 15.97, 3Bet Preflop: 1.61, Hands: 145)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 9s Kh
fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop : (6 BB, 2 players) 3d Ks 9c
Hero bets 3.8 BB, BB calls 3.8 BB

Turn : (13.6 BB, 2 players) 2s
Hero bets 9 BB, BB calls 9 BB

River : (31.6 BB, 2 players) Qh
Hero bets 38 BB,.........

 

[duggs]

33 fold pre!! that isnt in my MP range

 

[duggs]

Overbet done right?

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PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 92.4 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
Hero (SB): 289.4 BB
BB: 104.4 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
UTG: 134.6 BB (VPIP: 27.78, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 19)
MP: 264.4 BB (VPIP: 25.69, PFR: 15.97, 3Bet Preflop: 1.61, Hands: 145)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 9s Kh
fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop : (6 BB, 2 players) 3d Ks 9c
Hero bets 3.8 BB, BB calls 3.8 BB

Turn : (13.6 BB, 2 players) 2s
Hero bets 9 BB, BB calls 9 BB

River : (31.6 BB, 2 players) Qh
Hero bets 38 BB,.........

Whats the point of making it 120% pot? and not id just go like 80% on river tbh

 

[Alucard]

My kings today. sigh

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PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 24.29, PFR: 22.86, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 71)
SB: 168.2 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 16.30, 3Bet Preflop: 2.04, Hands: 139)
BB: 110.8 BB (VPIP: 12.07, PFR: 10.34, 3Bet Preflop: 10.53, Hands: 60)
UTG: 55.8 BB (VPIP: 30.88, PFR: 27.94, 3Bet Preflop: 3.70, Hands: 69)
MP: 96.8 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
Hero (CO): 488 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Kd Kc
fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop : (9.4 BB, 3 players) Jd Jc Th
BB checks, Hero bets 5 BB, BTN raises to 14.4 BB, BB calls 14.4 BB, fold

Turn : (43.2 BB, 2 players) 6s
BB checks, BTN checks

River : (43.2 BB, 2 players) Ad
BB checks, BTN bets 20 BB, BB calls 20 BB

 

[Alucard]

33 fold pre!! that isnt in my MP range

33 I'm definitely opening in any spot 6max. If I start folding those pre then I'd be more nittier than I am right now. BTW I'm following upswings charts.
Checked today's stats & I'm playing 17/13. Have been 3 betting lot lower than I'm used to.

Overbet is because he looked like a station the way he called the bets so made it look like a bluff with a possible straight draw missed.
V called with K5s.

 

[duggs]

33 I'm definitely opening in any spot 6max. If I start folding those pre then I'd be more nittier than I am right now. BTW I'm following upswings charts.
Checked today's stats & I'm playing 17/13. Have been 3 betting lot lower than I'm used to.

Overbet is because he looked like a station the way he called the bets so made it look like a bluff with a possible straight draw missed.
V called with K5s.

Weird can you post me the opening ranges? Im just winging it a little bit but im folding 55 utg and 44 MP and im running 28/23 (small sample and needs some tidying up obv)

 

[Alucard]

Weird can you post me the opening ranges? Im just winging it a little bit but im folding 55 utg and 44 MP and im running 28/23 (small sample and needs some tidying up obv)

ok so I checked it back and got to say I was wrong
But I am loosening up at zoom tables & I actually don't see what's wrong with opening small pockets early. At zoom people tend to play tighter so you should try to play loose right?
BTW when you sign up to upswing poker you can get the standard charts for free. Doug says alterations should be made according to the table image.

https://www.upswingpoker.com/
https://www.upswingpoker.com/preflop/
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Update
Yesterday I made the save of the month. I went down 5 buyins & decided not to quit & get it back up to winning. So ran one of the longest sessions ever. Was at profit in the end but then lost a bit.

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It's quite demotivating to know that this month has been a complete waste due to my lack of attention/focus & lack of mental stability.
And I had the game right on track at the end of last month.
But one thing I learned from yesterdays session. That is, I have to stay in the game & keep in tough. If I become rusty then it seems I have to start it all over again.
Happy that I was able to recover from the big loss.
My complete 5NL graph won't look pretty as it did before.
But lets get back it on track from now onwards!!

 

[Ahoy]

ok so I checked it back and got to say I was wrong
But I am loosening up at zoom tables & I actually don't see what's wrong with opening small pockets early. At zoom people tend to play tighter so you should try to play loose right?
BTW when you sign up to upswing poker you can get the standard charts for free. Doug says alterations should be made according to the table image.

https://www.upswingpoker.com/
https://www.upswingpoker.com/preflop/
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Update
Yesterday I made the save of the month. I went down 5 buyins & decided not to quit & get it back up to winning. So ran one of the longest sessions ever. Was at profit in the end but then lost a bit.

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It's quite demotivating to know that this month has been a complete waste due to my lack of attention/focus & lack of mental stability.
And I had the game right on track at the end of last month.
But one thing I learned from yesterdays session. That is, I have to stay in the game & keep in tough. If I become rusty then it seems I have to start it all over again.
Happy that I was able to recover from the big loss.
My complete 5NL graph won't look pretty as it did before.
But lets get back it on track from now onwards!!

Great to see that you saved the month. I can somehow realte to what you said about the rust and stating again. My session always look pretty similar where at the strat I am doing pretty good and then a little downswing comes, but when I continue to play I comeback it and focus more and win more.

 

[Alucard]

new day but same shit again. Kings vs Aces. Sets getting counter fitted by flushes hitting the river & this

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PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 106.8 BB (VPIP: 18.56, PFR: 14.97, 3Bet Preflop: 6.90, Hands: 169)
SB: 105.4 BB (VPIP: 24.52, PFR: 16.77, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 155)
BB: 139.8 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
UTG: 322.8 BB (VPIP: 17.70, PFR: 10.62, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 116)
MP: 233.6 BB (VPIP: 21.88, PFR: 15.63, 3Bet Preflop: 5.17, Hands: 166)
Hero (CO): 156.2 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Tc Jc
fold, MP raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB, fold, fold, BB raises to 11 BB, fold, Hero calls 8 BB

Flop : (25.4 BB, 2 players) 4h 7c 5c
BB bets 18 BB, Hero calls 18 BB

Turn : (61.4 BB, 2 players) 6s
BB checks, Hero bets 30 BB, BB calls 30 BB

River : (121.4 BB, 2 players) 3c
BB checks, Hero bets 46 BB, BB raises to 80.8 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 34.8 BB

BB shows Kc Ac (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 64%, Flop 81%, Turn 80%)

Hero shows Tc Jc (Flush, Jack High)
(Pre 36%, Flop 19%, Turn 20%)

BB wins 271.2 BB

I'm totally fed up. Down 4 buyins atm.

 

[duggs]

What time zone are you in?

 

[Alucard]

my ****ing day

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PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 220.2 BB (VPIP: 34.29, PFR: 20.95, 3Bet Preflop: 2.63, Hands: 107)
Hero (SB): 108.4 BB
BB: 127.2 BB (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 22)
UTG: 103.6 BB (VPIP: 21.95, PFR: 18.29, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 86)
MP: 115 BB (VPIP: 16.00, PFR: 8.00, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 27)
CO: 101.4 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Ts Th
fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero calls 6 BB

Flop : (18 BB, 2 players) 7s 8c 9c
Hero checks, BB checks

Turn : (18 BB, 2 players) 6s
Hero bets 9 BB, BB calls 9 BB

River : (36 BB, 2 players) 8s
Hero bets 14 BB, BB raises to 34.6 BB, Hero calls 20.6 BB

BB shows Ks As (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 46%, Flop 24%, Turn 20%)

Hero mucks Ts Th (Straight, Ten High)
(Pre 54%, Flop 76%, Turn 80%)

BB wins 100.8 BB

Update - not gonna thin value bet half pot on the turn cause every goddamn time they get to it on the river.
My red line might go higher but I'm gonna give crap odds from now on.

 

[Alucard]

What time zone are you in?

indian(ist)

 

[Figaroo2]

33 I'm definitely opening in any spot 6max. If I start folding those pre then I'd be more nittier than I am right now. BTW I'm following upswings charts.
Checked today's stats & I'm playing 17/13. Have been 3 betting lot lower than I'm used to..

Im opening all pairs all positions at 6max. Yeah 17-13 for 6 max is pretty snug and if you have been in the pool as long as you have then you aren't going to get as much action on your premiums.
Keep focused on playing the button more and try to keep that 3bet range 7-9% that should help. I give action all the time to guys who 3bet more than 7% but nothing to the 2-4% guys.

Neither John A or I agree with Polk's recommendation to use small suited garbage for 3betting as part of your polarised range. You only have around 20% equity when called by overpairs say TT JJ whereas if you use suited aces and kings you can still outflop those hands with usually 30% equity

Sorry to hear you are running bad, man I totally understand how you are feeling its been happening to me for months. Good to see you went down 5bi and held it together. I'd now set your stop/loss at 7-8bi.

 

[Alucard]

I went down $40 today. So damn unlucky. Taking a break,
There are some mistakes in the hands but have been running super terrible. I don't know how to explain this.

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PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 434.6 BB (VPIP: 25.25, PFR: 19.19, 3Bet Preflop: 8.11, Hands: 101)
Hero (SB): 119.2 BB
BB: 140.4 BB (VPIP: 20.83, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 24)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 97)
MP: 109.2 BB (VPIP: 28.42, PFR: 21.05, 3Bet Preflop: 10.64, Hands: 96)
CO: 172.2 BB (VPIP: 24.10, PFR: 13.25, 3Bet Preflop: 10.81, Hands: 85)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Kh Kc
fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero raises to 119.2 BB and is all-in, BB calls 110.2 BB

Flop : (238.4 BB, 2 players) 7d Ah 5d

Turn : (238.4 BB, 2 players) 5c

River : (238.4 BB, 2 players) Qh

Hero shows Kh Kc (Two Pair, Kings and Fives)
(Pre 68%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)

BB shows Tc Ac (Two Pair, Aces and Fives)
(Pre 32%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)

BB wins 228.6 BB

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PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 104.8 BB (VPIP: 22.73, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 44)
SB: 329.8 BB (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 27.27, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 11)
BB: 195.8 BB (VPIP: 24.36, PFR: 17.95, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 81)
UTG: 213.4 BB (VPIP: 26.09, PFR: 8.70, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 25)
Hero (MP): 169.8 BB
CO: 105.2 BB (VPIP: 22.51, PFR: 15.87, 3Bet Preflop: 3.81, Hands: 281)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Td 9d
UTG raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 2.6 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop : (12 BB, 4 players) 6d 9h 8h
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets 6 BB, SB calls 6 BB, fold, fold

Turn : (24 BB, 2 players) 9c
SB checks, Hero bets 18 BB, SB calls 18 BB

River : (60 BB, 2 players) 5s
SB checks, Hero checks

SB shows Qc 7h (Straight, Nine High)
(Pre 52%, Flop 35%, Turn 9%)

Hero mucks Td 9d (Three of a Kind, Nines)
(Pre 48%, Flop 65%, Turn 91%)

SB wins 57.6 BB

 

[Alucard]

Setting back my stop loss at 3 buy ins.
Will try again tmrw onwards

 

[duggs]

KK 4bet to like 21bb!!!! why are we 4bet jamming?

 

[Alucard]

KK 4bet to like 21bb!!!! why are we 4bet jamming?

Tilt play
even so I couldn't able to catch anything yesterday.

 

[Alucard]

pokerstars wouldn't just let me be. No justice

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PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 118 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 19.74, PFR: 17.11, 3Bet Preflop: 5.17, Hands: 153)
Hero (BB): 214.6 BB
UTG: 23.2 BB (VPIP: 5.26, PFR: 2.63, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 42)
MP: 149.2 BB (VPIP: 11.76, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
CO: 100.4 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 4.08, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 52)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Ks As
fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 3 BB, SB raises to 12 BB, Hero raises to 27 BB, BTN calls 24 BB, fold

Flop : (66 BB, 2 players) Ts Ad 4d
Hero bets 45 BB, BTN calls 45 BB

Turn : (156 BB, 2 players) 7h
Hero bets 98.8 BB, BTN calls 46 BB and is all-in

River : (248 BB, 2 players) Kd

Hero shows Ks As (Two Pair, Aces and Kings)
(Pre 62%, Flop 61%, Turn 66%)

BTN shows 9d 8d (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 38%, Flop 39%, Turn 34%)

BTN wins 237.8 BB

 

[Alucard]

Nice little ace on flop

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PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 105 BB (VPIP: 41.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
Hero (SB): 110 BB
BB: 202.4 BB (VPIP: 24.76, PFR: 19.05, 3Bet Preflop: 5.41, Hands: 108)
UTG: 187.2 BB (VPIP: 27.78, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 55)
MP: 133.4 BB (VPIP: 29.59, PFR: 23.47, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 101)
CO: 271 BB (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 12)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Kd Ks
UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, Hero raises to 13 BB, fold, UTG calls 10 BB, fold

Flop : (30 BB, 2 players) 4c Tc Ad
Hero bets 17 BB, UTG raises to 48.4 BB, fold

UTG wins 61.4 BB

 

[Beanfacekilla]

Nice little ace on flop

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PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 105 BB (VPIP: 41.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
Hero (SB): 110 BB
BB: 202.4 BB (VPIP: 24.76, PFR: 19.05, 3Bet Preflop: 5.41, Hands: 108)
UTG: 187.2 BB (VPIP: 27.78, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 55)
MP: 133.4 BB (VPIP: 29.59, PFR: 23.47, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 101)
CO: 271 BB (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 12)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Kd Ks
UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, Hero raises to 13 BB, fold, UTG calls 10 BB, fold

Flop : (30 BB, 2 players) 4c Tc Ad
Hero bets 17 BB, UTG raises to 48.4 BB, fold

UTG wins 61.4 BB

Check flop, call reasonable bets, and re-evaluate turn. We don't want to be bloating the pot and betting, and getting raised here is gross and we obv have to fold.

 

[Alucard]

Check flop, call reasonable bets, and re-evaluate turn. We don't want to be bloating the pot and betting, and getting raised here is gross and we obv have to fold.

I really think the bet fold is the better line here than check calling. He could be bluffing with so many hands plus getting value out of the better ones. Maybe I'm wrong but that's how I was taught by people here. I'm open to changing my play if it seems like a leak.

 

[Beanfacekilla]

Sorry for double post, but I thought more about it, and I should probably give my reasoning for the above advice.....


We don't have a club blocker, which means more combos with clubs could potentially be in V's hand.

If we check, he may stab with things we are actually beating, cause we are never going to fold out better with a bet here, so betting really serves no purpose other than to charge draws.

So, if we c/c flop, and then we check say an offsuit 7 turn, and V checks back, then we have alot more info, and we can maybe even c/c brick rivers then as well.

V's range will have Ax as well, but he can have many other hands IMO. So, I think personally it's better to check, and let him stab, keep his range wider, than if we bet and then fold out potential hands that may stab this flop. He may in fact think you have an under pair to the ace, so he very well may try to rep it with a hand like 8-8 or he may even be betting some 10x, etc, or trying to turn other hands into bluffs, where as he may fold these to cbet and just surrender.