A Thread

[ScottishMatt]

I think anyone value betting thin enough to fire 99 there can definitely alter sizing based upon his perception of our range.

"Snap-bet just means he didn't think about checking behind. So it can be air, monsters, anything he already knew he was going to bet."

"how he adjusts his sizing based on that. If he is even thinking about ranges at all."

These don't mix. If he is smart enough to know exactly how he is playing the next street, if he is prepared enough to have that plan in place, then surely he is capable enough of at least bet sizing accordingly.

Anyway, I'm not being results-oriented as I think it may still have been the correct play. He showed up with TT here, I feel that my river call is correct if he does the same thing when a J shows up - I'm speculating as to whether he does though. Like, I think he definitely bets when a J shows up and he has TT. He isn't spewy though. It's not what he did that makes me question my call - it's how he did it. He bet big, and he bet fast. Seems like he had a very easy decision and if we take away what we know about him (as you don't seem to put much weight into it anyway) and just generalise then it is probably a fold.

Again though, I'm happy with how I played it. I feel like calling river is fine most of the time, just that minute factors that I would normally overlook could be the factors that help me make a better decision in future spots.

 

[Matt Vaughan]

Just because he knows he's going to bet the next street does NOT imply he's smart enough to be adjusting well - I didn't mean he "had a plan" but rather that he knew he was going to bet that hand, likely regardless of what card came down. Even with the result of TT it's probably safe to say he was betting that on most river cards.

And I already said I like the play lol - I'm not sure if you are just nit picking my statements or really disagree strongly with what I was saying? I'm still not sure how you are seeing a fold being correct here. I could concede it's close, but I don't think close enough for me to fold. (Fwiw, he bets approximately the same % of the pot on the turn and river - so I don't see river sizing as being massive really.)

 

[Logan2]

Just kind of playing what I feel like. Won't go above 10NL though cause I'll try and stick to BR management.

I can start posting in your thread but I feel like I probably can't have too much to say TBH.

Also, I need to start looking at the game from a mathematical perspective as well so does anyone have the link to that 2+2 thread that lists all the top strategy threads?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/7.../concept-week-schedule-table-contents-397190/

Is for Fullring though so not sure you mean that one.

 

[ScottishMatt]

Just because he knows he's going to bet the next street does NOT imply he's smart enough to be adjusting well - I didn't mean he "had a plan" but rather that he knew he was going to bet that hand, likely regardless of what card came down. Even with the result of TT it's probably safe to say he was betting that on most river cards.

And I already said I like the play lol - I'm not sure if you are just nit picking my statements or really disagree strongly with what I was saying? I'm still not sure how you are seeing a fold being correct here. I could concede it's close, but I don't think close enough for me to fold. (Fwiw, he bets approximately the same % of the pot on the turn and river - so I don't see river sizing as being massive really.)

Sorry bro. Was a bit all over the place with that post. I think it's fine in this situation but I feel my comments still stand in a general sense. I feel like against his river betting range we profit. For sure. We know it is +EV. What if we can be more specific than that though? Why settle for +EV, when we could be ++EV?

If I can break down his actions using the more minute factors and use them to help construct ranges then I think I can make even better decisions. In certain situations say I break even against someone's river betting range, but if I can break it down even more and say that I profit vs their 60% pot betting range, but lose money vs their 80% pot snap-betting range. Then I can make even better decisions. Lets face it almost no one balances to such a perfect degree that we can never interpret anything from their timing and their sizing.

That is all I was getting at. Something I've been picking up with less tables and more time to think through decisions and consider all factors.


And yeah I found it Logan, thanks man!

 

[xdeucesx]

AA hand. If the plan is to let him go aggro, then ofc we call river? Like that's the plan, right? Induce 2 streets of air-balls? Typically vs. someone shaping up to be this fishy, I bet 2 streets and then either bet/fold or x/call river depending on board. I just don't see a player like this folding any PP on the turn, or any 8x, or any pair+GS, really. So I think we miss value since he doesn't bet that entire range. Yes he might airball some, so it's prob close actually. But I tend to lean toward the betting line here.

this ^

bet turn 100%. We don't want to give all his drawing hands a free card + his pair hands aren't going to fold so were crushing him.

For river, depending on villain, either just fire again for value or c/c if you think he's drawing and willing to fire. Personally, I probably just bet bc it would kill me to check and let him check 8x, all pp's, 5x, etc. behind

 

[Matt Vaughan]

Ooookay. I definitely kind of missed your meaning there before. I agree that his sizing likely means something. (I play on Bovada, so going off marginally greater than 50%-true assumptions about bet-sizing etc is something I do pretty regularly.)

Also, not to get into stupid little details here, but I don't remember stars' software very well. It theoretically would just take 2 clicks for him to bet 75% on the river, right? I'm trying to gauge what a "snap" is. Cause at least on Bovada, you can face 2 kinds of snaps. One kind where the card that came down probably didn't affect their action because they wouldn't have had time to even factor it into their decision before they bet. And then another kind where they could have.

In any case, I admire your attention to detail and trying to pull marginal edges here (maybe even not-so-marginal, tbf).

Also, crap, I missed that post asking about the COTW stuff. That post is pure gold.

 

[ScottishMatt]

So I've been running super bad these past couple days. Got supremely tilted one session where I missed every flop vs probably the biggest fish I've ever seen (I had the jesus seat too ). Then when I GII vs him he had me crushed 2/3 times. Still I've been playing pretty good poker for the most part.

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $4.00 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
UTG: $13.16 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
MP: $6.08 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
CO: $3.75 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
Hero (BTN): $10.00
SB: $13.29 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has J:club: K:club:

UTG raises to $0.30, fold, CO calls $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, fold, fold

Flop: ($1.05, 3 players) T:club: 8:club: J:diamond:
UTG bets $0.90, CO raises to $1.80, Hero calls $1.80, UTG calls $0.90

Turn: ($6.45, 3 players) K:heart:
UTG checks, CO checks, Hero bets $3.20, UTG calls $3.20, CO calls $1.65 and is all-in

River: ($14.50, 3 players) A:diamond:
UTG bets $7.86 and is all-in, fold


This hand seems super easy OTR when you look at it but when you've been running like I have it's difficult not to be a pay off wizard when even the worst board runout happens. So super proud of myself for finding a fold

 

[Matt Vaughan]

In the same boat as you. Just gotta keep plugging along. NH sir.

 

[vinylspiros]

So I've been running super bad these past couple days. Got supremely tilted one session where I missed every flop vs probably the biggest fish I've ever seen (I had the jesus seat too ). Then when I GII vs him he had me crushed 2/3 times. Still I've been playing pretty good poker for the most part.

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $4.00 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
UTG: $13.16 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
MP: $6.08 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
CO: $3.75 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
Hero (BTN): $10.00
SB: $13.29 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has J♣ K♣

UTG raises to $0.30, fold, CO calls $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, fold, fold

Flop: ($1.05, 3 players) T♣ 8♣ J♦
UTG bets $0.90, CO raises to $1.80, Hero calls $1.80, UTG calls $0.90

Turn: ($6.45, 3 players) K♥
UTG checks, CO checks, Hero bets $3.20, UTG calls $3.20, CO calls $1.65 and is all-in

River: ($14.50, 3 players) A♦
UTG bets $7.86 and is all-in, fold


This hand seems super easy OTR when you look at it but when you've been running like I have it's difficult not to be a pay off wizard when even the worst board runout happens. So super proud of myself for finding a fold

dont think im too crazy with this turn bet versus two players on such a wet board. Alot of strights here and draws and board is gonna look even uglier on river ,so i think i like checking this turn for a little pot control. I mean if your betting for value, then why not go for like 85 % instead of 50%?

 

[Blobweird123]

Turn bet seems fine to me. We just picked up more equity/FH outs so we're certainly betting for value. No need to go 85% here seeing as our SPR is already gonna be <.5 if we get 2 callers and <1 if we only get UTG caller. So it's not like we can't shove rivers and get called lighter plus it gives us the chance to do exactly what we did, which was get out when its obvious we're now beat. Hand looks well played all around

 

[ScottishMatt]

1. PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: $10.48 (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
CO: $15.41 (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 7)
Hero (BTN): $10.00
SB: $9.90 (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
BB: $10.70 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
UTG: $11.44 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has A:heart: Q:club:

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.21, SB raises to $0.70, fold, Hero calls $0.49

Flop: ($1.50, 2 players) K:diamond: T:diamond: 9:heart:
SB checks, Hero bets $0.97, SB calls $0.97

Turn: ($3.44, 2 players) 4:spade:
SB checks

Do we bet again? (If so, how should we size it?)


2. PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: $7.79 (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 5.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
BTN: $5.04 (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
SB: $17.14 (VPIP: 26.32, PFR: 21.05, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 20)
BB: $10.00 (VPIP: 5.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
UTG: $9.15 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
Hero (MP): $10.00

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has A:heart: J:heart:

fold, Hero raises to $0.31, fold, fold, SB calls $0.26, fold

Flop: ($0.72, 2 players) A:spade: T:heart: 2:spade:
SB checks, Hero bets $0.50, SB calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.72, 2 players) 8:spade:
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($1.72, 2 players) 4:club:
SB bets $1.10

Wondering if I could start calling down in these spots?

 

[Matt Vaughan]

I assume in hand 1 we are putting him almost exclusively on QQ/JJ, since even his really strong hands are vulnerable to draws. So yeah I'm betting turn, probably biggish to maximize fold equity. $2 - $2.25 maybe?

For hand 2, this looks like a pretty slam-dunk spot to fold unless you have a read. Like yeah, we lose to some air sometimes, but spades are only hitting the turn around 20% of the time so we're not being super exploitable. I doubt he's ever thin-value betting like QQ or JT. And he doesn't have much air, aside from I guess gutshots that float. He might not even value bet A9 here (if it's even in his range pre). Nice spot to fold imo.

 

[ScottishMatt]

Not had much going on. Just been playing away, running bad for the most part but I've avoided tilting and still reckon I'm crushing it although I'm not going to look at graphs till the end of Feb. Here is pretty much the only spot that has happened today:

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $5.96
SB: $4.92 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
BB: $5.09 (VPIP: 8.00, PFR: 8.00, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 26)
UTG: $12.85 (VPIP: 15.79, PFR: 15.79, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
MP: $5.77 (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 30.00, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 10)
CO: $5.45 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has 4:club: 4:diamond:

fold, MP raises to $0.15, fold, Hero calls $0.15, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.37, 2 players) Q:spade: 9:spade: J:spade:
MP checks, Hero bets $0.25, MP calls $0.25

Turn: ($0.87, 2 players) 3:heart:
MP checks, Hero bets $0.59, MP calls $0.59

River: ($2.05, 2 players) A:diamond:
MP bets $0.60

Was so tempted to jam but not having much info on him nor any reads made me think twice as I've cut back on a lot of needless betting/spewy behaviour and feel like I'm playing so much better because of it. If we range him on slowplayed nut flush/straight flush along with sets (not sure if he bets those OTF) as well as rivered 2P (say AQ + AsJx) do we think a raise/fold is better than just folding?

 

[duggs]

I'm not very keen on the flop or turn bet tbh

 

[micromachine]

I'd probably bet the flop too but I'm giving up once he calls it, as played fold river jamming is spew

 

[vinylspiros]

I dont like the bets either. When i have 44 ,i might be betting a dry flop but if he calls, thats it, im giving up, Looks a bit spewy, esp cause this is a super wet board and there are alot of hands he will call/float you with.

 

[Logan2]

I could bet flop some times expecting that if villain don't have a spade he let it go, but i know villain as been active on the 10 hands we have, so i problably just let go. As played yeah, fold river, don't shove.


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[Matt Vaughan]

Flop is kind of the nut board to check back, particularly with hands that have such little equity when called. Betting the turn is downright bad imo, since it's a complete blank, and we have no other reason to expect him to fold at this point. River raise would be interesting but probably bad as well. It's challenging to range his river lead here, and I think it's the As a pretty decent portion of the time, which I'm not confident I can get an unknown at 5nl to fold.

 

[ScottishMatt]

So sometimes I'm raising this flop but it depends on a lot of factors, none of which I could determine with so little info on the villains in the hand.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $5.17
SB: $4.91 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
BB: $8.49 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
UTG: $21.74 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
Hero (MP): $5.86
CO: $5.05 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has A:club: A:diamond:

fold, Hero raises to $0.15, fold, BTN calls $0.15, SB calls $0.13, fold

Flop: ($0.50, 3 players) 4:club: 2:club: 9:heart:
SB bets $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, fold

Turn: ($1.00, 2 players) 6:spade:
SB bets $0.55, Hero calls $0.55

River: ($2.10, 2 players) 3:club:
SB bets $1.45, fold,

We happy with this?

 

[Matt Vaughan]

Urgh, I hate that it's the 3c, and this is one argument for raising the flop tbh. We get to force villain to pay more with draws, and we don't get to this river with a really close decision. Because I see villains take this line with 9x and like TT plenty. But there are likely FD's there too. I don't really know how close it is but I'm not snap-anything on this river bet tbh.

 

[pocketehs]

matt, you should raise that flop. as played raise the turn. as played snap the river

fish can just be doing this w like KJo cause he feels like it.

 

[vinylspiros]

Easy fold on the river IMO. Well played. If they didnt already have a set on the flop, they might have some weird 2P or if thats not the case, flush and straights got there on the river. Rarely will someone decide to go Bananas with worse than what you have.


Edit: where is the value in raising flop guys? If we feel like we are ahead don't we want him to keep barreling?

 

[duggs]

Value is in getting called by worse, and stacking worse hands

 

[ScottishMatt]

Finished like 150/3500 in a tournament just there. Had AJ on like 3x4hJhAx6x triple barrel shoved and he showed 66. Oh well.

Mostly been playing tournaments for the day but had some Zoom in there as well. Here are a few spots:

1.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $5.48 (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
SB: $2.52 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
Hero (BB): $5.67
UTG: $3.52
MP: $0.75 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
CO: $3.19 (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 12)

SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has Q<font color='red'>♥</font> K<font color='black'>♣</font>

UTG calls $0.05, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.15, fold, Hero raises to $0.60, UTG calls $0.55, BTN calls $0.45

Flop: ($1.82, 3 players) 2<font color='red'>♥</font> 8<font color='red'>♥</font> 9<font color='red'>♥</font>


Tourney spots now -

2.

PokerStars - $3+$0.30|600/1200 Ante 150 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 41,599 (VPIP: 22.39, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 13.64, Hands: 68)
BTN: 33,690 (VPIP: 8.00, PFR: 8.16, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 50)
SB: 3,906 (VPIP: 26.83, PFR: 10.53, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 41)
BB: 18,285 (VPIP: 7.69, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
UTG: 17,625 (VPIP: 11.94, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 68)
UTG+1: 22,774 (VPIP: 16.42, PFR: 11.94, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 68)
UTG+2: 4,365 (VPIP: 17.91, PFR: 7.58, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 68)
Hero (MP): 43,208
MP+1: 42,138 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)

9 players post ante of 150, SB posts SB 600, BB posts BB 1,200

Pre Flop: (pot: 3,150) Hero has 6:spade: 6:club:

UTG calls 1,200, fold, fold, fold, MP+1 calls 1,200, CO raises to 3,375, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 2,175, fold

Flop: (11,100, 2 players) 7:club: 2:club: 4:diamond:
UTG checks, CO bets 7,200, fold,

3. ?

PokerStars - $3+$0.30|1200/2400 Ante 300 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+1: 47,488 (VPIP: 8.91, PFR: 8.16, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 101)
CO: 90,930 (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 23.08, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
BTN: 50,290 (VPIP: 9.52, PFR: 6.56, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 64)
SB: 47,794 (VPIP: 15.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
BB: 181,075 (VPIP: 34.04, PFR: 19.15, 3Bet Preflop: 8.70, Hands: 47)
UTG: 9,363 (VPIP: 19.23, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 26)
Hero (UTG+1): 27,277
MP: 75,138 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)

8 players post ante of 300, SB posts SB 1,200, BB posts BB 2,400

Pre Flop: (pot: 6,000) Hero has 2:club: 2:diamond:

UTG raises to 9,063 and is all-in, Hero raises to 26,977 and is all-in, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (24,126, 2 players) 7:spade: K:spade: 6:heart:

Turn: (24,126, 2 players) 5:heart:

River: (24,126, 2 players) A:club:


3.

PokerStars - $3+$0.30|125/250 Ante 25 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 4,705 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
MP+1: 8,455 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 38.89, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 37)
Hero (CO): 1,135
BTN: 11,015 (VPIP: 8.11, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 18.75, Hands: 37)
SB: 3,830 (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 7)
BB: 3,255 (VPIP: 14.71, PFR: 15.63, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 36)
UTG: 4,950 (VPIP: 32.35, PFR: 22.58, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 34)
UTG+1: 4,130 (VPIP: 20.69, PFR: 11.54, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 29)

8 players post ante of 25, SB posts SB 125, BB posts BB 250

Pre Flop: (pot: 575) Hero has A:heart: 2:spade:

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to 500, Hero raises to 1,110 and is all-in, fold, SB calls 985, fold, MP+1 raises to 8,430 and is all-in, SB calls 2,695 and is all-in

Flop: (9,170, 3 players) 9:spade: 8:diamond: 6:spade:

Turn: (9,170, 3 players) K:club:

River: (9,170, 3 players) T:diamond:

4.

PokerStars - $2+$0.20|200/400 Ante 50 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 9,540 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
UTG+2: 8,590 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
MP: 5,290 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
MP+1: 10,420 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
CO: 9,000 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
BTN: 8,940 (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 3)
SB: 9,925 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
Hero (BB): 12,094
UTG: 24,515 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)

9 players post ante of 50, SB posts SB 200, Hero posts BB 400

Pre Flop: (pot: 1,050) Hero has 9:heart: 9:diamond:

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 1,200, fold, Hero raises to 12,044 and is all-in, BTN calls 7,690 and is all-in

Flop: (18,430, 2 players) 6:diamond: 2:heart: 8:diamond:

Turn: (18,430, 2 players) J:diamond:

River: (18,430, 2 players) Q:heart:

 

[vinylspiros]

Value is in getting called by worse, and stacking worse hands

yea but if we think we have the best hand and we reraise flop, we fold out worse and we get called by better.( and sometimes the draws). I think this spot might be too thin to be reraising flop. Im fine with call/call/fold on this runnout though.