slow played

[shortstacked]

well I guess you could call this payed off on a slow play

JetSetPoker Email Request by Shortstacked on 08/02/2006 12:07:06
Info requested: Hand History, Hand # = 122275636


Game # 122275636: Texas Holdem No Limit ($0.50/$1) 08/02/2006 11:49:25
Table "Union Square" (real money) Seat 7 is the button

Seat 1: ConnieZBaby ($161.50)
Seat 2: Shortstacked ($38.80)
Seat 3: zulius ($16.84)
Seat 4: Muzzlestuffer ($41.40)
Seat 5: silverbullit ($63.65)
Seat 6: BOSSOFTHEMOSS ($242.50)
Seat 7: baldeagle ($75.15) [button]
Seat 8: dredmahawkus ($46.70)
Seat 9: WangPang ($23.20)
dredmahawkus: posts small blind $0.50
WangPang: posts big blind $1

>>> HOLE CARDS <<<
Dealt to Shortstacked [Ks As]
ConnieZBaby: folds
ConnieZBaby sits out
Shortstacked: calls $1
zulius: calls $1
Muzzlestuffer: folds
silverbullit: calls $1
BOSSOFTHEMOSS: folds
baldeagle: folds
dredmahawkus: folds
WangPang: checks

>>> FLOP <<< [4c 4h Ad]
WangPang: checks
Shortstacked: bets $4.50
zulius: raises $11.34 to $15.84 and is all-in
silverbullit: folds
WangPang: folds
Shortstacked: calls $11.34

>>> TURN <<< [4c 4h Ad] [8c]

>>> RIVER <<< [4c 4h Ad 8c] [5h]

>>> SHOWDOWN <<<
Shortstacked: shows [Ks As] (two pairs, Aces and Fours - King kicker)
zulius: shows [Ah Qc] (two pairs, Aces and Fours)
Shortstacked: collects $34.38 from the pot
zulius leaves the table with $0

>>> SUMMARY <<<
Total pot $36.18.
Rake $1.80

Board: [4c 4h Ad 8c 5h]
Seat 1: ConnieZBaby folded before the flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Shortstacked showed [Ks As] and won ($34.38) with two pairs,
Aces
and Fours - King kicker
Seat 3: zulius showed [Ah Qc] and lost with two pairs, Aces and Fours
Seat 4: Muzzlestuffer folded before the flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: silverbullit folded on the flop
Seat 6: BOSSOFTHEMOSS folded before the flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: baldeagle (button) folded before the flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: dredmahawkus (small blind) folded before the flop
Seat 9: WangPang (big blind) folded on the flop

 

[t1riel]

And they say A,K never wins...

 

[shortstacked]

ok heres how NOT to slow roll AA

t1riel you'll like this

Game # 122280047: Texas Holdem No Limit ($0.50/$1) 08/02/2006 12:24:55
Table "Union Square" (Real Money) Seat 4 is the button

Seat 1: d-rockownz ($30.85)
Seat 2: Shortstacked ($59.19)
Seat 4: A V P ($26.83) [button]
Seat 5: silverbullit ($50.32)
Seat 6: BOSSOFTHEMOSS ($283.78)
Seat 7: baldeagle ($67.62)
Seat 8: dredmahawkus ($47.70) >>>> sat out
silverbullit: posts small blind $0.50
BOSSOFTHEMOSS: posts big blind $1

>>> HOLE CARDS <<<
Dealt to Shortstacked [Kc Js]
baldeagle: folds
d-rockownz: folds
Shortstacked: raises $1 to $2
baldeagle leaves the table with $67.62
A V P: folds
silverbullit: calls $1.50
BOSSOFTHEMOSS: calls $1

>>> FLOP <<< [5h Jc 3h]
silverbullit: checks
BOSSOFTHEMOSS: checks
Shortstacked: bets $8
silverbullit: calls $8
BOSSOFTHEMOSS: folds

>>> TURN <<< [5h Jc 3h] [Kd]
silverbullit: bets $5
Shortstacked: raises $44.19 to $49.19 and is all-in
silverbullit: calls $35.32 and is all-in
Shortstacked: uncalled bet ($8.87) returned

>>> RIVER <<< [5h Jc 3h Kd] [8s]

>>> SHOWDOWN <<<
silverbullit: shows [As Ac] (a pair of Aces)
Shortstacked: shows [Kc Js] (two pairs, Kings and Jacks)
Shortstacked: collects $99.64 from the pot
silverbullit sits out

>>> SUMMARY <<<
Total pot $102.64.
Rake $3

Board: [5h Jc 3h Kd 8s]
Seat 1: d-rockownz folded before the flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Shortstacked showed [Kc Js] and won ($99.64) with two pairs,
Kings
and Jacks
Seat 4: A V P (button) folded before the flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: silverbullit (small blind) showed [As Ac] and lost with a pair
of
Aces
Seat 6: BOSSOFTHEMOSS (big blind) folded on the flop
Seat 7: baldeagle folded before the flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: dredmahawkus (sat out)

 

[whyareunvs]

while I do believe that marriage can be painful, getting married to a hand can be just as painful as witnessed by silverbuilt.

I rarely slow-play aces, post flop they become a pain unless you flop a set. Especially with scary boards.

 

[Toadly]

Yeah I agree with you on this whyareunvs. I also like to push hard with pocket aces pre flop. Especialy from last position. from early seat I like a small raise in hopes of a re-raise then I push back hard. I think about half my bullets win the pot pre-flop.......WHAT you say ?? yep about half but, thoose small wins add up over the long run to make up for the cracked bullets.....

when I do hit a great flop with Bullets I tend to act like a have missed the flop in hopes of a huge flop bet from another player so I can push back hard, Maybe get em' all-in

 

[Kenzie 96]

Hell Channing I know people with more failed mariages than that. You might want to examine how you are playing this hand but no reason to lose faith. Stuff happens.

 

[Vintage82]

Nice hands, but I've gotta ask about your preflop thinking...

Hand 1 - No raise preflop with AKs? Missing some potential value with your hand there.
Hand 2 - Why the minimum raise? Min raising will kill you slowly and surely. If you are raising, make it 3/4x BB to go, and dont give the blinds a chance at a flop.

 

[shortstacked]

Nice hands, but I've gotta ask about your preflop thinking...

Hand 1 - No raise preflop with AKs? Missing some potential value with your hand there.
Hand 2 - Why the minimum raise? Min raising will kill you slowly and surely. If you are raising, make it 3/4x BB to go, and dont give the blinds a chance at a flop.

#1 read topic title
#2 because that what I wanted to do, I still got payed off, 2nd if I wouldnt of got any part of the flop I can get out cheap, im the one that can and will fold 90% of his hands in ring games, view some of my posts, I do well

 

[t1riel]

ok heres how NOT to slow roll AA

t1riel you'll like this

Game # 122280047: Texas Holdem No Limit ($0.50/$1) 08/02/2006 12:24:55
Table "Union Square" (Real Money) Seat 4 is the button

Seat 1: d-rockownz ($30.85)
Seat 2: Shortstacked ($59.19)
Seat 4: A V P ($26.83) [button]
Seat 5: silverbullit ($50.32)
Seat 6: BOSSOFTHEMOSS ($283.78)
Seat 7: baldeagle ($67.62)
Seat 8: dredmahawkus ($47.70) >>>> sat out
silverbullit: posts small blind $0.50
BOSSOFTHEMOSS: posts big blind $1

>>> HOLE CARDS <<<
Dealt to Shortstacked [Kc Js]
baldeagle: folds
d-rockownz: folds
Shortstacked: raises $1 to $2
baldeagle leaves the table with $67.62
A V P: folds
silverbullit: calls $1.50
BOSSOFTHEMOSS: calls $1

>>> FLOP <<< [5h Jc 3h]
silverbullit: checks
BOSSOFTHEMOSS: checks
Shortstacked: bets $8
silverbullit: calls $8
BOSSOFTHEMOSS: folds

>>> TURN <<< [5h Jc 3h] K♦
silverbullit: bets $5
Shortstacked: raises $44.19 to $49.19 and is all-in
silverbullit: calls $35.32 and is all-in
Shortstacked: uncalled bet ($8.87) returned

>>> RIVER <<< [5h Jc 3h Kd] 8♠

>>> SHOWDOWN <<<
silverbullit: shows [As Ac] (a pair of Aces)
Shortstacked: shows [Kc Js] (two pairs, Kings and Jacks)
Shortstacked: collects $99.64 from the pot
silverbullit sits out

>>> SUMMARY <<<
Total pot $102.64.
Rake $3

Board: [5h Jc 3h Kd 8s]
Seat 1: d-rockownz folded before the flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Shortstacked showed [Kc Js] and won ($99.64) with two pairs,
Kings
and Jacks
Seat 4: A V P (button) folded before the flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: silverbullit (small blind) showed [As Ac] and lost with a pair
of
Aces
Seat 6: BOSSOFTHEMOSS (big blind) folded on the flop
Seat 7: baldeagle folded before the flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: dredmahawkus (sat out)

My favorite hand, K, J, strikes again!

 

[ebon87]

In reply to Shortstakeds post. Consider you have the AA. If it were me I would have played it the same way but folded to the all-in. The chance of you hitting a K or J on the turn was about 10%. So 90% of the time he could hav sucked out another $5 on the turn and then another $5-10 on the river (about 80% of the time). 20% of the time he will lose the entire pot so its not such bad play.

If it were me I would with AA i would raised your $8 bet to about $25. If you fold I am happy and if you call I am happy because the odds are agaist you and I made you pay...

I normally slowplay if I am in early position or have near nuts. If someone is betting into me I am inclined to make a very big bet right there rather than give em a chance. Oh silverbullet.

 

[Bombjack]

Hey t1riel, this one's for you!

Shortstacked - good play on the fist one. It's good to vary your openings and it paid off this time - nicely done.