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shagnscoob
Rock Star
Silver Level
My second “session” review. This is microstakes LHE on pokerstars, but took place BEFORE the last session. I played these hands before I played the hands from the other session review, but did the review after... 
Zoortsi: posts small blind $0.02
sh4gnscoob: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [9h 3s]
thizzelleW: folds
noahdog73: folds
Dalmorton: calls $0.05
hamhawk72: folds
Gismo46: folds
Gismo46 leaves the table
pete1936: folds
parookie11: calls $0.05
Kornella82: calls $0.05
Zoortsi: calls $0.03
sh4gnscoob: checks
*** FLOP *** [2h 5d 9c]
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.05
Dalmorton: folds
parookie11: folds
Kornella82: raises $0.05 to $0.10
Zoortsi: calls $0.10
sh4gnscoob: calls $0.05
*** TURN *** [2h 5d 9c] [Th]
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: checks
Kornella82: checks
*** RIVER *** [2h 5d 9c Th] [As]
Zoortsi: bets $0.10
sh4gnscoob: folds
Kornella82: calls $0.10
Top pair no kicker that was almost certainly going to be outdrawn. Perhaps I should have check/called the flop and just folded after that. To any overpair was drawing to only 5 outs against 2 players. I figured the one on the SB might not have anything so I bet, but I got the information I needed (when he raised) and should have left it at that.
noahdog73: posts small blind $0.02
hamhawk72: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [Qs Ks]
pete1936: calls $0.05
parookie11: calls $0.05
brighttran: folds
Zoortsi: calls $0.05
sh4gnscoob: raises $0.05 to $0.10
brighttran leaves the table
thizzelleW: folds
noahdog73: calls $0.08
hamhawk72: calls $0.05
pete1936: calls $0.05
parookie11: calls $0.05
Zoortsi: calls $0.05
*** FLOP *** [9h 2c 9c]
noahdog73: checks
hamhawk72: checks
pete1936: checks
parookie11: checks
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.05
noahdog73: folds
hamhawk72: folds
pete1936: folds
parookie11: folds
Zoortsi: calls $0.05
*** TURN *** [9h 2c 9c] [5c]
Zoortsi: bets $0.10
sh4gnscoob: calls $0.10
*** RIVER *** [9h 2c 9c 5c] [3h]
Zoortsi: bets $0.10
sh4gnscoob: folds
I think the PF raise and bet on the flop were both good, but at that point I should have been careful because any 9's would kill me. I REALLY narrowed the field, but on the turn it looked grim, specially in that small of a pot drawing to only 6 outs to top pair (which may have lost to a flush anyway). Should have folded on the turn instead of wasting that .10c
209637: posts small blind $0.02
pete1936: posts big blind $0.05
hbgkid: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [Js Qs]
parookie11: calls $0.05
Zoortsi: calls $0.05
sh4gnscoob: calls $0.05
thizzelleW: folds
noahdog73: calls $0.05
hamhawk72: folds
209637: folds
pete1936: checks
*** FLOP *** [9c As 8d]
pete1936: checks
parookie11: checks
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.05
noahdog73: calls $0.05
pete1936: folds
parookie11: calls $0.05
Zoortsi: calls $0.05
*** TURN *** [9c As 8d] [2s]
parookie11: checks
Zoortsi: checks
Dalmorton has returned
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.10
noahdog73: calls $0.10
parookie11: calls $0.10
Zoortsi: calls $0.10
*** RIVER *** [9c As 8d 2s] [9d]
parookie11: checks
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: checks
noahdog73: bets $0.10
parookie11: folds
Zoortsi: folds
sh4gnscoob: calls $0.10
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Flop laid me a gutshot straight draw (even though the T meant anyone with a K had the nuts), a backdoor flush, and 2 under cards to the ace. On that coordinated a board, I suspect there were other people drawing, so when I bet on the turn no one folded (shocking!), it should have been obvious to fold on the river where I was beat by any 9, 8, A or 2. I basically threw .10c down the toilet again. I tend to think that bets from last to act on the river after it gets checked are bluffs, which they could be but I better not call them with Ace high queen kicker.
Zoortsi: posts small blind $0.02
sh4gnscoob: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [Qh Jd]
thizzelleW: calls $0.05
noahdog73: folds
Dalmorton: folds
hamhawk72: calls $0.05
209637: folds
pete1936: folds
parookie11: calls $0.05
hbgkid: folds
Zoortsi: calls $0.03
sh4gnscoob: checks
*** FLOP *** [Ac 3s As]
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: checks
thizzelleW: checks
hamhawk72: checks
parookie11: checks
*** TURN *** [Ac 3s As] [3d]
Zoortsi: bets $0.10
sh4gnscoob: folds
Seems standard to me. I was killed by any Ace, 3, any pocket pair, and even any king.
sh4gnscoob: posts small blind $0.02
thizzelleW: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [Kd Ks]
noahdog73: calls $0.05
Dalmorton: calls $0.05
hamhawk72: calls $0.05
209637: calls $0.05
pete1936: calls $0.05
parookie11: calls $0.05
hbgkid: calls $0.05
Zoortsi: calls $0.05
sh4gnscoob: raises $0.05 to $0.10
thizzelleW: calls $0.05
noahdog73: calls $0.05
Dalmorton: calls $0.05
hamhawk72: calls $0.05
209637: calls $0.05
pete1936: calls $0.05
parookie11: calls $0.05
hbgkid: calls $0.05
Zoortsi: calls $0.05
*** FLOP *** [2c 7h 2h]
sh4gnscoob: checks
thizzelleW: checks
noahdog73: checks
Dalmorton: checks
hamhawk72: checks
209637: checks
pete1936: checks
parookie11: checks
hbgkid: checks
Zoortsi: bets $0.05
sh4gnscoob: raises $0.05 to $0.10
thizzelleW: folds
noahdog73: folds
Dalmorton: folds
hamhawk72: calls $0.10
209637: folds
pete1936: folds
parookie11: folds
hbgkid: folds
Zoortsi: raises $0.05 to $0.15
sh4gnscoob: calls $0.05
hamhawk72: calls $0.05
*** TURN *** [2c 7h 2h] [Qd]
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.10
hamhawk72: calls $0.10
Zoortsi: calls $0.10
*** RIVER *** [2c 7h 2h Qd] [2d]
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.10
hamhawk72: calls $0.10
Zoortsi: raises $0.10 to $0.20
sh4gnscoob: raises $0.10 to $0.30
hamhawk72: calls $0.20
Zoortsi: calls $0.10
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Good preflop play. I'm NOT sure why I checked on the flop without SPECIFIC evidence that someone would bet, but if I had bet out I was giving everyone with a flush draw an easy call. So check-raising I think was an excellent idea, but when it got reraised I also think calling was a good idea, because I was drawing nearly dead to a set. Still as safe as before on the turn I bet out, and on the river hit the full house and bet out hoping to cap the bets. I guess the only interesting part is the check-raise on the flop, but otherwise it's hard NOT to play this hand right. I could even have bet out all the way and still been fine when the last 2 dropped even if the queen was hearts.
Zoortsi: posts small blind $0.02
sh4gnscoob: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [Ac 5c]
thizzelleW: folds
noahdog73: folds
hamhawk72: calls $0.05
209637: folds
califax0815: folds
parookie11: folds
hbgkid: calls $0.05
Zoortsi: calls $0.03
sh4gnscoob: checks
*** FLOP *** [3d Qd 5h]
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.05
hamhawk72: calls $0.05
hbgkid: calls $0.05
Zoortsi: calls $0.05
*** TURN *** [3d Qd 5h] [8c]
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: checks
hamhawk72: checks
hbgkid: bets $0.10
Zoortsi: calls $0.10
sh4gnscoob: folds
Marginal hand on the flop in a TINY pot. Middle pair and I bet the flop AGAIN. I should be betting on the flop only for value at this point right? For value or if I KNOW I can knock people out, but I think this kind of board (with a straight and a flush available) is telling me not to. Should have check/folded the flop? I could maybe see check/calling but it just seems like drawing to only 5 outs sucks. Actually discount 1 ace and 1 five because those put 3 to a flush, so MAYBE 3-4 outs. With only 3 other people in the pot, calling anything seems like -EV, especially when 4 outs is drawing 10.5 to 1. Now I almost definitely think check/fold.
Zoortsi: posts small blind $0.02
sh4gnscoob: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [5s 5c]
waiter64: folds
noahdog73: folds
hamhawk72: calls $0.05
209637: folds
califax0815: folds
parookie11: folds
hbgkid: calls $0.05
Zoortsi: calls $0.03
sh4gnscoob: checks
*** FLOP *** [7c 6h 8c]
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.05
hamhawk72: folds
hbgkid: calls $0.05
Zoortsi: calls $0.05
*** TURN *** [7c 6h 8c] [5h]
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.10
hbgkid: folds
Zoortsi: calls $0.10
*** RIVER *** [7c 6h 8c 5h] [Kd]
Zoortsi: bets $0.10
sh4gnscoob: raises $0.10 to $0.20
Zoortsi: calls $0.10
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Seems like a standard set mine, but I flopped the OESD. Against 3 opponents with 8 outs to a straight and 2 outs to a set I thin I was in pretty good condition to bet out on the flop. Especially because I had 2 fives so it was a lot less likely that someone else would complete a higher straight. When I hit the set I just bet out and raised on the turn suspecting he probably hit his king or maybe his two pair. Seems like another easy to play hand where not a lot of mistakes are possible.
I'm wondering if maybe I should start looking very in depth in EV, because technically with 1 card to come and 10 outs to a very strong hand, I'm only getting 3.6 to 1. And against 3 opponents that means I'm -EV to put money in the pot even though I have a pretty solid drawing hand. Does that mean I made a mistake by betting (which could have knocked out even more players dropping my EV more if I didn't hit on the turn) and instead I should have just checked?
I can see where you would ignore EV if you think you can win the pot right there, but in this case it seemed unlikely. Looking back there was even a flush draw so maybe checking the flop would have been a much better choice, perhaps even check/folding? STILL, anyone with a flush draw was -EV to continue because they'll only hit 1/5 times. Complicated, I don't really understand this situation all that well.
noahdog73: posts small blind $0.02
hamhawk72: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [Ac Kh]
209637: folds
califax0815: folds
parookie11: folds
hbgkid: folds
Zoortsi: calls $0.05
sh4gnscoob: raises $0.05 to $0.10
waiter64: folds
noahdog73: calls $0.08
hamhawk72: calls $0.05
Zoortsi: calls $0.05
*** FLOP *** [6s Ah Qc]
noahdog73: checks
hamhawk72: checks
Zoortsi: bets $0.05
sh4gnscoob: raises $0.05 to $0.10
noahdog73: folds
hamhawk72: calls $0.10
Zoortsi: raises $0.05 to $0.15
sh4gnscoob: raises $0.05 to $0.20
Betting is capped
hamhawk72: calls $0.10
Zoortsi: calls $0.05
*** TURN *** [6s Ah Qc] [4c]
hamhawk72: checks
Zoortsi: bets $0.10
sh4gnscoob: calls $0.10
hamhawk72: calls $0.10
*** RIVER *** [6s Ah Qc 4c] [2d]
hamhawk72: checks
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.10
hamhawk72: calls $0.10
Zoortsi: calls $0.10
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Obviously raise preflop, raise on on the flop with TPTK and a backdoor nut straight. However, when it gets reraised I'm not exactly sure if calling or raising was a good idea. I feel like capping was a really strong move, because I do have a particular strong hand, not to mention I've heard a dozen times that sets are “monsters under the bed” and I should generally discount my opponents from holding one, but 66 is EASILY limpable at these low limits, and of course there are lots of people limp/cold call with QQ. Playing very aggressively when no other draws seem to show up, except maybe the runner runner straight for anyone with 53, which would have been a shocker to lose to but I think slowing down for that is getting a little paranoid. Maybe if a 3rd club had fallen I would have been more concerned, because there were still 2 opponents playing to the river. Again, I don't think this was a very difficult hand to play, at least not with that board.
Zoortsi: posts small blind $0.02
sh4gnscoob: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [5c Ah]
waiter64: folds
Zoortsi said, "where is my luck ?"
noahdog73: folds
hamhawk72: folds
209637: folds
5bigb: folds
parookie11: folds
hbgkid: calls $0.05
Zoortsi: calls $0.03
sh4gnscoob: checks
*** FLOP *** [Qs 8c Jc]
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: checks
hbgkid: checks
*** TURN *** [Qs 8c Jc] [4s]
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: checks
hbgkid: checks
*** RIVER *** [Qs 8c Jc 4s] [3d]
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: checks
hbgkid: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Was there anything I missed here? It seems pretty dry, but if it was clear that I could have taken the pot where was it? I tend to think bluffing completely is pretty foolish in micro stakes, where a semibluff is FAR more effective.
5bigb: posts small blind $0.02
parookie11: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [Js Jc]
hbgkid: folds
sh4gnscoob: raises $0.05 to $0.10
STETZBC: calls $0.10
Dalmorton: calls $0.10
hamhawk72: folds
209637: folds
5bigb: folds
parookie11: calls $0.05
*** FLOP *** [7h Kd 3c]
parookie11: checks
Zoortsi has returned
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.05
STETZBC: folds
Dalmorton: calls $0.05
waiter64 has returned
parookie11: calls $0.05
*** TURN *** [7h Kd 3c] [Ah]
parookie11: checks
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.10
Dalmorton: folds
parookie11: calls $0.10
*** RIVER *** [7h Kd 3c Ah] [Qs]
parookie11: checks
sh4gnscoob: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
I basically don't know WHAT was going on with this hand. Middle pair and I bet out, this time it's somewhat for value, even though there are still 2 other cards than can come to beat my pair besides the king. This was before the first session analysis, so I was still betting out on the flop with middle pair, which I've learned is an expensive habit. This is more of a semibluff, if that, because I did have a decent hand against 3 villains. Betting the turn seems foolish, but it looks like I finally learned on the river to just check. Betting the turn with 2 over cards just sounds stupid when I think it in my head, like I would never ever recommend doing it. Reminds me of someone's advice to always think out my decisions and if it sounds like something I would tell someone not to do, don't do it. Should remember that instead of throwing dimes down the drain.
Zoortsi: posts small blind $0.02
sh4gnscoob: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [4d 2s]
waiter64: folds
STETZBC: calls $0.05
Dalmorton: calls $0.05
hamhawk72: folds
209637: folds
5bigb: folds
parookie11: calls $0.05
hbgkid: folds
Zoortsi: calls $0.03
sh4gnscoob: checks
*** FLOP *** [6d Jh 9c]
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: checks
STETZBC: checks
Dalmorton: checks
parookie11: checks
*** TURN *** [6d Jh 9c] [Js]
Zoortsi: bets $0.10
sh4gnscoob: folds
Standard check/fold I believe.
meathead5000: posts small blind $0.02
209637: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [Kh Jc]
5bigb: folds
parookie11: folds
hbgkid: folds
Zoortsi: calls $0.05
sh4gnscoob: calls $0.05
waiter64: calls $0.05
STETZBC: calls $0.05
lazylepticer: folds
meathead5000: folds
209637: checks
*** FLOP *** [6c Ah Tc]
209637: checks
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.05
waiter64: folds
STETZBC: calls $0.05
209637: folds
Zoortsi: calls $0.05
*** TURN *** [6c Ah Tc] [Jh]
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.10
STETZBC: calls $0.10
Zoortsi: calls $0.10
*** RIVER *** [6c Ah Tc Jh] [4d]
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.10
Called PF from MP seems alright, that's pretty much exactly where it fits on SSHE recommendations. Flopped a gutshot to the nut straight, and a backdoor flush. I'm pretty much betting every flop that I'm continuing in unless I'm a BB/SB who is SO obviously beat. In this case I'm not sure what the thinking was, but I think a check/call would have been better. There was no way I was going to get the right odds for anything though, seeing as one queen completes a flush, and if anyone had an ace only runner-runner kings/jacks to look for. I would say maybe 4-5 outs, which I need AT LEAST 10 to 1 for, and I wasn't getting that so betting seems pretty ridiculous. I really need to figure out what kind of flop textures make it easier to steal the pot right there, but this was not one of them. After it was only called on the flop and checked on the turn I suppose betting was an okay idea, although now anyone with a KQ (who would have called) completes the straight, but there were no raises, so on the river I bet again. As played I like the bet on the river, everyone else looks like they missed their straight/flush, and I think I would have faced more aggression by someone holding an Ace.
So really the flop bet is what I don't like, and I'm not really sold on the turn bet either. I had terrible odds there as well. Opinions?
Zoortsi: posts small blind $0.02
sh4gnscoob: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [8d Td]
waiter64: folds
STETZBC: calls $0.05
lazylepticer: calls $0.05
meathead5000: folds
clilovv: folds
5bigb: folds
parookie11: folds
Zoortsi: calls $0.03
sh4gnscoob: checks
*** FLOP *** [5d Jc Qc]
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.05
STETZBC: folds
lazylepticer: folds
Zoortsi: calls $0.05
*** TURN *** [5d Jc Qc] [5s]
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: checks
*** RIVER *** [5d Jc Qc 5s] [7h]
Zoortsi said, "JQ?"
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Standard check/folding with missed BB hand. Again, if there was a way to steal the pot at all I'd like to know.
sh4gnscoob: posts small blind $0.02
waiter64: posts big blind $0.05
pete1936: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [4s 6s]
STETZBC: folds
lazylepticer: calls $0.05
meathead5000: folds
clilovv: folds
5bigb: calls $0.05
parookie11: folds
pete1936: checks
Zoortsi: calls $0.05
sh4gnscoob: calls $0.03
waiter64: checks
*** FLOP *** [Ah 6d 5c]
sh4gnscoob: checks
waiter64: checks
lazylepticer: checks
5bigb: checks
pete1936: checks
Zoortsi: checks
*** TURN *** [Ah 6d 5c] [8h]
sh4gnscoob: checks
waiter64: checks
lazylepticer: bets $0.10
5bigb: folds
pete1936: folds
Zoortsi: folds
sh4gnscoob: folds
I've already decided that I'm going to play tighter from the SB because it's only 2/5's of a bet, so no more any 2 suited. As played, I hit middle pair and 3 to a straight, the pot was tiny and paying .10 to see the river seemed too expensive for a gutshot to a small win. I think this was a fine play.
Zoortsi: posts small blind $0.02
sh4gnscoob: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [Jd 6s]
waiter64: folds
STETZBC: calls $0.05
meathead5000: calls $0.05
clilovv: folds
parookie11: calls $0.05
Zoortsi: calls $0.03
sh4gnscoob: checks
*** FLOP *** [8s 8h 9c]
Zoortsi: bets $0.05
sh4gnscoob: folds
Seems obvious enough. I think I played this right.
HuxleySWG: posts small blind $0.02
sh4gnscoob: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [3s 6s]
mj2980: calls $0.05
YORLE65: calls $0.05
flatleever: folds
440isa: calls $0.05
Swagger2404: calls $0.05
brk1228: folds
jewell56: calls $0.05
greene325: calls $0.05
HuxleySWG: folds
sh4gnscoob: checks
*** FLOP *** [9h 6d 5d]
sh4gnscoob: checks
mj2980: checks
YORLE65: bets $0.05
440isa: folds
Swagger2404: raises $0.05 to $0.10
jewell56: folds
greene325: raises $0.05 to $0.15
sh4gnscoob: folds
Hit middle pair and 3 to a straight, but after all that action it seemed obvious that I was beat, easy fold.
YORLE65: posts small blind $0.02
flatleever: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [Qh Tc]
Swagger2404: folds
brk1228: calls $0.05
jewell56: calls $0.05
greene325: calls $0.05
HuxleySWG: folds
sh4gnscoob: calls $0.05
mj2980: calls $0.05
YORLE65: calls $0.03
flatleever: checks
*** FLOP *** [3c Ah 3s]
YORLE65: checks
flatleever: checks
brk1228: checks
jewell56: checks
greene325: checks
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.05
mj2980: calls $0.05
YORLE65: folds
flatleever: calls $0.05
brk1228: calls $0.05
jewell56: folds
greene325: folds
*** TURN *** [3c Ah 3s] [As]
flatleever: checks
brk1228: checks
sh4gnscoob: checks
mj2980: checks
*** RIVER *** [3c Ah 3s As] [5h]
flatleever: checks
brk1228: checks
sh4gnscoob: checks
mj2980: bets $0.10
flatleever: calls $0.10
brk1228: folds
sh4gnscoob: folds
Another example of betting on the flop in a hand where I had almost nothing. I was drawing basically dead to any ace or 3. That's why I said betting the flop when I have nothing/almost nothing was a big leak, because I do it SO often and SO pointlessly. Stupid lol.
Zoortsi: posts small blind $0.02
sh4gnscoob: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [9h 3s]
thizzelleW: folds
noahdog73: folds
Dalmorton: calls $0.05
hamhawk72: folds
Gismo46: folds
Gismo46 leaves the table
pete1936: folds
parookie11: calls $0.05
Kornella82: calls $0.05
Zoortsi: calls $0.03
sh4gnscoob: checks
*** FLOP *** [2h 5d 9c]
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.05
Dalmorton: folds
parookie11: folds
Kornella82: raises $0.05 to $0.10
Zoortsi: calls $0.10
sh4gnscoob: calls $0.05
*** TURN *** [2h 5d 9c] [Th]
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: checks
Kornella82: checks
*** RIVER *** [2h 5d 9c Th] [As]
Zoortsi: bets $0.10
sh4gnscoob: folds
Kornella82: calls $0.10
Top pair no kicker that was almost certainly going to be outdrawn. Perhaps I should have check/called the flop and just folded after that. To any overpair was drawing to only 5 outs against 2 players. I figured the one on the SB might not have anything so I bet, but I got the information I needed (when he raised) and should have left it at that.
noahdog73: posts small blind $0.02
hamhawk72: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [Qs Ks]
pete1936: calls $0.05
parookie11: calls $0.05
brighttran: folds
Zoortsi: calls $0.05
sh4gnscoob: raises $0.05 to $0.10
brighttran leaves the table
thizzelleW: folds
noahdog73: calls $0.08
hamhawk72: calls $0.05
pete1936: calls $0.05
parookie11: calls $0.05
Zoortsi: calls $0.05
*** FLOP *** [9h 2c 9c]
noahdog73: checks
hamhawk72: checks
pete1936: checks
parookie11: checks
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.05
noahdog73: folds
hamhawk72: folds
pete1936: folds
parookie11: folds
Zoortsi: calls $0.05
*** TURN *** [9h 2c 9c] [5c]
Zoortsi: bets $0.10
sh4gnscoob: calls $0.10
*** RIVER *** [9h 2c 9c 5c] [3h]
Zoortsi: bets $0.10
sh4gnscoob: folds
I think the PF raise and bet on the flop were both good, but at that point I should have been careful because any 9's would kill me. I REALLY narrowed the field, but on the turn it looked grim, specially in that small of a pot drawing to only 6 outs to top pair (which may have lost to a flush anyway). Should have folded on the turn instead of wasting that .10c
209637: posts small blind $0.02
pete1936: posts big blind $0.05
hbgkid: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [Js Qs]
parookie11: calls $0.05
Zoortsi: calls $0.05
sh4gnscoob: calls $0.05
thizzelleW: folds
noahdog73: calls $0.05
hamhawk72: folds
209637: folds
pete1936: checks
*** FLOP *** [9c As 8d]
pete1936: checks
parookie11: checks
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.05
noahdog73: calls $0.05
pete1936: folds
parookie11: calls $0.05
Zoortsi: calls $0.05
*** TURN *** [9c As 8d] [2s]
parookie11: checks
Zoortsi: checks
Dalmorton has returned
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.10
noahdog73: calls $0.10
parookie11: calls $0.10
Zoortsi: calls $0.10
*** RIVER *** [9c As 8d 2s] [9d]
parookie11: checks
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: checks
noahdog73: bets $0.10
parookie11: folds
Zoortsi: folds
sh4gnscoob: calls $0.10
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Flop laid me a gutshot straight draw (even though the T meant anyone with a K had the nuts), a backdoor flush, and 2 under cards to the ace. On that coordinated a board, I suspect there were other people drawing, so when I bet on the turn no one folded (shocking!), it should have been obvious to fold on the river where I was beat by any 9, 8, A or 2. I basically threw .10c down the toilet again. I tend to think that bets from last to act on the river after it gets checked are bluffs, which they could be but I better not call them with Ace high queen kicker.
Zoortsi: posts small blind $0.02
sh4gnscoob: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [Qh Jd]
thizzelleW: calls $0.05
noahdog73: folds
Dalmorton: folds
hamhawk72: calls $0.05
209637: folds
pete1936: folds
parookie11: calls $0.05
hbgkid: folds
Zoortsi: calls $0.03
sh4gnscoob: checks
*** FLOP *** [Ac 3s As]
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: checks
thizzelleW: checks
hamhawk72: checks
parookie11: checks
*** TURN *** [Ac 3s As] [3d]
Zoortsi: bets $0.10
sh4gnscoob: folds
Seems standard to me. I was killed by any Ace, 3, any pocket pair, and even any king.
sh4gnscoob: posts small blind $0.02
thizzelleW: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [Kd Ks]
noahdog73: calls $0.05
Dalmorton: calls $0.05
hamhawk72: calls $0.05
209637: calls $0.05
pete1936: calls $0.05
parookie11: calls $0.05
hbgkid: calls $0.05
Zoortsi: calls $0.05
sh4gnscoob: raises $0.05 to $0.10
thizzelleW: calls $0.05
noahdog73: calls $0.05
Dalmorton: calls $0.05
hamhawk72: calls $0.05
209637: calls $0.05
pete1936: calls $0.05
parookie11: calls $0.05
hbgkid: calls $0.05
Zoortsi: calls $0.05
*** FLOP *** [2c 7h 2h]
sh4gnscoob: checks
thizzelleW: checks
noahdog73: checks
Dalmorton: checks
hamhawk72: checks
209637: checks
pete1936: checks
parookie11: checks
hbgkid: checks
Zoortsi: bets $0.05
sh4gnscoob: raises $0.05 to $0.10
thizzelleW: folds
noahdog73: folds
Dalmorton: folds
hamhawk72: calls $0.10
209637: folds
pete1936: folds
parookie11: folds
hbgkid: folds
Zoortsi: raises $0.05 to $0.15
sh4gnscoob: calls $0.05
hamhawk72: calls $0.05
*** TURN *** [2c 7h 2h] [Qd]
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.10
hamhawk72: calls $0.10
Zoortsi: calls $0.10
*** RIVER *** [2c 7h 2h Qd] [2d]
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.10
hamhawk72: calls $0.10
Zoortsi: raises $0.10 to $0.20
sh4gnscoob: raises $0.10 to $0.30
hamhawk72: calls $0.20
Zoortsi: calls $0.10
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Good preflop play. I'm NOT sure why I checked on the flop without SPECIFIC evidence that someone would bet, but if I had bet out I was giving everyone with a flush draw an easy call. So check-raising I think was an excellent idea, but when it got reraised I also think calling was a good idea, because I was drawing nearly dead to a set. Still as safe as before on the turn I bet out, and on the river hit the full house and bet out hoping to cap the bets. I guess the only interesting part is the check-raise on the flop, but otherwise it's hard NOT to play this hand right. I could even have bet out all the way and still been fine when the last 2 dropped even if the queen was hearts.
Zoortsi: posts small blind $0.02
sh4gnscoob: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [Ac 5c]
thizzelleW: folds
noahdog73: folds
hamhawk72: calls $0.05
209637: folds
califax0815: folds
parookie11: folds
hbgkid: calls $0.05
Zoortsi: calls $0.03
sh4gnscoob: checks
*** FLOP *** [3d Qd 5h]
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.05
hamhawk72: calls $0.05
hbgkid: calls $0.05
Zoortsi: calls $0.05
*** TURN *** [3d Qd 5h] [8c]
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: checks
hamhawk72: checks
hbgkid: bets $0.10
Zoortsi: calls $0.10
sh4gnscoob: folds
Marginal hand on the flop in a TINY pot. Middle pair and I bet the flop AGAIN. I should be betting on the flop only for value at this point right? For value or if I KNOW I can knock people out, but I think this kind of board (with a straight and a flush available) is telling me not to. Should have check/folded the flop? I could maybe see check/calling but it just seems like drawing to only 5 outs sucks. Actually discount 1 ace and 1 five because those put 3 to a flush, so MAYBE 3-4 outs. With only 3 other people in the pot, calling anything seems like -EV, especially when 4 outs is drawing 10.5 to 1. Now I almost definitely think check/fold.
Zoortsi: posts small blind $0.02
sh4gnscoob: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [5s 5c]
waiter64: folds
noahdog73: folds
hamhawk72: calls $0.05
209637: folds
califax0815: folds
parookie11: folds
hbgkid: calls $0.05
Zoortsi: calls $0.03
sh4gnscoob: checks
*** FLOP *** [7c 6h 8c]
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.05
hamhawk72: folds
hbgkid: calls $0.05
Zoortsi: calls $0.05
*** TURN *** [7c 6h 8c] [5h]
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.10
hbgkid: folds
Zoortsi: calls $0.10
*** RIVER *** [7c 6h 8c 5h] [Kd]
Zoortsi: bets $0.10
sh4gnscoob: raises $0.10 to $0.20
Zoortsi: calls $0.10
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Seems like a standard set mine, but I flopped the OESD. Against 3 opponents with 8 outs to a straight and 2 outs to a set I thin I was in pretty good condition to bet out on the flop. Especially because I had 2 fives so it was a lot less likely that someone else would complete a higher straight. When I hit the set I just bet out and raised on the turn suspecting he probably hit his king or maybe his two pair. Seems like another easy to play hand where not a lot of mistakes are possible.
I'm wondering if maybe I should start looking very in depth in EV, because technically with 1 card to come and 10 outs to a very strong hand, I'm only getting 3.6 to 1. And against 3 opponents that means I'm -EV to put money in the pot even though I have a pretty solid drawing hand. Does that mean I made a mistake by betting (which could have knocked out even more players dropping my EV more if I didn't hit on the turn) and instead I should have just checked?
I can see where you would ignore EV if you think you can win the pot right there, but in this case it seemed unlikely. Looking back there was even a flush draw so maybe checking the flop would have been a much better choice, perhaps even check/folding? STILL, anyone with a flush draw was -EV to continue because they'll only hit 1/5 times. Complicated, I don't really understand this situation all that well.
noahdog73: posts small blind $0.02
hamhawk72: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [Ac Kh]
209637: folds
califax0815: folds
parookie11: folds
hbgkid: folds
Zoortsi: calls $0.05
sh4gnscoob: raises $0.05 to $0.10
waiter64: folds
noahdog73: calls $0.08
hamhawk72: calls $0.05
Zoortsi: calls $0.05
*** FLOP *** [6s Ah Qc]
noahdog73: checks
hamhawk72: checks
Zoortsi: bets $0.05
sh4gnscoob: raises $0.05 to $0.10
noahdog73: folds
hamhawk72: calls $0.10
Zoortsi: raises $0.05 to $0.15
sh4gnscoob: raises $0.05 to $0.20
Betting is capped
hamhawk72: calls $0.10
Zoortsi: calls $0.05
*** TURN *** [6s Ah Qc] [4c]
hamhawk72: checks
Zoortsi: bets $0.10
sh4gnscoob: calls $0.10
hamhawk72: calls $0.10
*** RIVER *** [6s Ah Qc 4c] [2d]
hamhawk72: checks
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.10
hamhawk72: calls $0.10
Zoortsi: calls $0.10
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Obviously raise preflop, raise on on the flop with TPTK and a backdoor nut straight. However, when it gets reraised I'm not exactly sure if calling or raising was a good idea. I feel like capping was a really strong move, because I do have a particular strong hand, not to mention I've heard a dozen times that sets are “monsters under the bed” and I should generally discount my opponents from holding one, but 66 is EASILY limpable at these low limits, and of course there are lots of people limp/cold call with QQ. Playing very aggressively when no other draws seem to show up, except maybe the runner runner straight for anyone with 53, which would have been a shocker to lose to but I think slowing down for that is getting a little paranoid. Maybe if a 3rd club had fallen I would have been more concerned, because there were still 2 opponents playing to the river. Again, I don't think this was a very difficult hand to play, at least not with that board.
Zoortsi: posts small blind $0.02
sh4gnscoob: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [5c Ah]
waiter64: folds
Zoortsi said, "where is my luck ?"
noahdog73: folds
hamhawk72: folds
209637: folds
5bigb: folds
parookie11: folds
hbgkid: calls $0.05
Zoortsi: calls $0.03
sh4gnscoob: checks
*** FLOP *** [Qs 8c Jc]
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: checks
hbgkid: checks
*** TURN *** [Qs 8c Jc] [4s]
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: checks
hbgkid: checks
*** RIVER *** [Qs 8c Jc 4s] [3d]
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: checks
hbgkid: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Was there anything I missed here? It seems pretty dry, but if it was clear that I could have taken the pot where was it? I tend to think bluffing completely is pretty foolish in micro stakes, where a semibluff is FAR more effective.
5bigb: posts small blind $0.02
parookie11: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [Js Jc]
hbgkid: folds
sh4gnscoob: raises $0.05 to $0.10
STETZBC: calls $0.10
Dalmorton: calls $0.10
hamhawk72: folds
209637: folds
5bigb: folds
parookie11: calls $0.05
*** FLOP *** [7h Kd 3c]
parookie11: checks
Zoortsi has returned
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.05
STETZBC: folds
Dalmorton: calls $0.05
waiter64 has returned
parookie11: calls $0.05
*** TURN *** [7h Kd 3c] [Ah]
parookie11: checks
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.10
Dalmorton: folds
parookie11: calls $0.10
*** RIVER *** [7h Kd 3c Ah] [Qs]
parookie11: checks
sh4gnscoob: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
I basically don't know WHAT was going on with this hand. Middle pair and I bet out, this time it's somewhat for value, even though there are still 2 other cards than can come to beat my pair besides the king. This was before the first session analysis, so I was still betting out on the flop with middle pair, which I've learned is an expensive habit. This is more of a semibluff, if that, because I did have a decent hand against 3 villains. Betting the turn seems foolish, but it looks like I finally learned on the river to just check. Betting the turn with 2 over cards just sounds stupid when I think it in my head, like I would never ever recommend doing it. Reminds me of someone's advice to always think out my decisions and if it sounds like something I would tell someone not to do, don't do it. Should remember that instead of throwing dimes down the drain.
Zoortsi: posts small blind $0.02
sh4gnscoob: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [4d 2s]
waiter64: folds
STETZBC: calls $0.05
Dalmorton: calls $0.05
hamhawk72: folds
209637: folds
5bigb: folds
parookie11: calls $0.05
hbgkid: folds
Zoortsi: calls $0.03
sh4gnscoob: checks
*** FLOP *** [6d Jh 9c]
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: checks
STETZBC: checks
Dalmorton: checks
parookie11: checks
*** TURN *** [6d Jh 9c] [Js]
Zoortsi: bets $0.10
sh4gnscoob: folds
Standard check/fold I believe.
meathead5000: posts small blind $0.02
209637: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [Kh Jc]
5bigb: folds
parookie11: folds
hbgkid: folds
Zoortsi: calls $0.05
sh4gnscoob: calls $0.05
waiter64: calls $0.05
STETZBC: calls $0.05
lazylepticer: folds
meathead5000: folds
209637: checks
*** FLOP *** [6c Ah Tc]
209637: checks
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.05
waiter64: folds
STETZBC: calls $0.05
209637: folds
Zoortsi: calls $0.05
*** TURN *** [6c Ah Tc] [Jh]
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.10
STETZBC: calls $0.10
Zoortsi: calls $0.10
*** RIVER *** [6c Ah Tc Jh] [4d]
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.10
Called PF from MP seems alright, that's pretty much exactly where it fits on SSHE recommendations. Flopped a gutshot to the nut straight, and a backdoor flush. I'm pretty much betting every flop that I'm continuing in unless I'm a BB/SB who is SO obviously beat. In this case I'm not sure what the thinking was, but I think a check/call would have been better. There was no way I was going to get the right odds for anything though, seeing as one queen completes a flush, and if anyone had an ace only runner-runner kings/jacks to look for. I would say maybe 4-5 outs, which I need AT LEAST 10 to 1 for, and I wasn't getting that so betting seems pretty ridiculous. I really need to figure out what kind of flop textures make it easier to steal the pot right there, but this was not one of them. After it was only called on the flop and checked on the turn I suppose betting was an okay idea, although now anyone with a KQ (who would have called) completes the straight, but there were no raises, so on the river I bet again. As played I like the bet on the river, everyone else looks like they missed their straight/flush, and I think I would have faced more aggression by someone holding an Ace.
So really the flop bet is what I don't like, and I'm not really sold on the turn bet either. I had terrible odds there as well. Opinions?
Zoortsi: posts small blind $0.02
sh4gnscoob: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [8d Td]
waiter64: folds
STETZBC: calls $0.05
lazylepticer: calls $0.05
meathead5000: folds
clilovv: folds
5bigb: folds
parookie11: folds
Zoortsi: calls $0.03
sh4gnscoob: checks
*** FLOP *** [5d Jc Qc]
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.05
STETZBC: folds
lazylepticer: folds
Zoortsi: calls $0.05
*** TURN *** [5d Jc Qc] [5s]
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: checks
*** RIVER *** [5d Jc Qc 5s] [7h]
Zoortsi said, "JQ?"
Zoortsi: checks
sh4gnscoob: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Standard check/folding with missed BB hand. Again, if there was a way to steal the pot at all I'd like to know.
sh4gnscoob: posts small blind $0.02
waiter64: posts big blind $0.05
pete1936: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [4s 6s]
STETZBC: folds
lazylepticer: calls $0.05
meathead5000: folds
clilovv: folds
5bigb: calls $0.05
parookie11: folds
pete1936: checks
Zoortsi: calls $0.05
sh4gnscoob: calls $0.03
waiter64: checks
*** FLOP *** [Ah 6d 5c]
sh4gnscoob: checks
waiter64: checks
lazylepticer: checks
5bigb: checks
pete1936: checks
Zoortsi: checks
*** TURN *** [Ah 6d 5c] [8h]
sh4gnscoob: checks
waiter64: checks
lazylepticer: bets $0.10
5bigb: folds
pete1936: folds
Zoortsi: folds
sh4gnscoob: folds
I've already decided that I'm going to play tighter from the SB because it's only 2/5's of a bet, so no more any 2 suited. As played, I hit middle pair and 3 to a straight, the pot was tiny and paying .10 to see the river seemed too expensive for a gutshot to a small win. I think this was a fine play.
Zoortsi: posts small blind $0.02
sh4gnscoob: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [Jd 6s]
waiter64: folds
STETZBC: calls $0.05
meathead5000: calls $0.05
clilovv: folds
parookie11: calls $0.05
Zoortsi: calls $0.03
sh4gnscoob: checks
*** FLOP *** [8s 8h 9c]
Zoortsi: bets $0.05
sh4gnscoob: folds
Seems obvious enough. I think I played this right.
HuxleySWG: posts small blind $0.02
sh4gnscoob: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [3s 6s]
mj2980: calls $0.05
YORLE65: calls $0.05
flatleever: folds
440isa: calls $0.05
Swagger2404: calls $0.05
brk1228: folds
jewell56: calls $0.05
greene325: calls $0.05
HuxleySWG: folds
sh4gnscoob: checks
*** FLOP *** [9h 6d 5d]
sh4gnscoob: checks
mj2980: checks
YORLE65: bets $0.05
440isa: folds
Swagger2404: raises $0.05 to $0.10
jewell56: folds
greene325: raises $0.05 to $0.15
sh4gnscoob: folds
Hit middle pair and 3 to a straight, but after all that action it seemed obvious that I was beat, easy fold.
YORLE65: posts small blind $0.02
flatleever: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [Qh Tc]
Swagger2404: folds
brk1228: calls $0.05
jewell56: calls $0.05
greene325: calls $0.05
HuxleySWG: folds
sh4gnscoob: calls $0.05
mj2980: calls $0.05
YORLE65: calls $0.03
flatleever: checks
*** FLOP *** [3c Ah 3s]
YORLE65: checks
flatleever: checks
brk1228: checks
jewell56: checks
greene325: checks
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.05
mj2980: calls $0.05
YORLE65: folds
flatleever: calls $0.05
brk1228: calls $0.05
jewell56: folds
greene325: folds
*** TURN *** [3c Ah 3s] [As]
flatleever: checks
brk1228: checks
sh4gnscoob: checks
mj2980: checks
*** RIVER *** [3c Ah 3s As] [5h]
flatleever: checks
brk1228: checks
sh4gnscoob: checks
mj2980: bets $0.10
flatleever: calls $0.10
brk1228: folds
sh4gnscoob: folds
Another example of betting on the flop in a hand where I had almost nothing. I was drawing basically dead to any ace or 3. That's why I said betting the flop when I have nothing/almost nothing was a big leak, because I do it SO often and SO pointlessly. Stupid lol.