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bw07507

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Alright, I know I shouldve thrown a much bigger bet at the flop, but other than that can you see any other mistakes I made? Instature had been a calling station all game. God I am awful at ring games.

Starting Hand #5291420-430

chemort is the Dealer

Shuffling Cards

KingFish16 Posted Small Blind $0.10

Milmete Posted Big Blind $0.25

Dealing Cards

bw07507 Calls $0.25

LesClaypool Calls $0.25

grubace Folds

FireMKey Folds

goingtotoga Folds

tilomax47 Folds

Instature Calls $0.25

chemort Calls $0.25

KingFish16 Folds

Milmete Checks

Dealing Flop (Qc,Js,7s)

Milmete Checks

bw07507 Bets $0.80

LesClaypool Folds

Instature Calls $0.80

chemort Calls $0.80

Milmete Calls $0.80

Dealing Turn (Kh)

Milmete Checks

bw07507 Bets $4.10

Instature Calls $4.10

chemort Folds

Milmete Calls $4.10

Dealing River (8h)

Milmete Checks

bw07507 All In

Instature Calls $8.99

Milmete All In

bw07507 Shows (7c,7d)

Instature Shows (Ts,Ad)

Milmete Shows (Ks,6s)

Instature Wins $4.87 from Pot 2 with : Ace High Straight

Instature Wins $34.32 from Pot 1 with : Ace High Straight
 
zebranky

zebranky

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well, you spotted the biggest problem - need a much bigger bet on the flop (pot size). If you're up against a calling station, though, that might not do you much good, so don't beat yourself up. A check-raise on the flop may also have been a good idea.

On the turn - as others have hammered into me around here: why are you betting? Your only callers when you bet this much have you beat already, so its no gain vs. bigger loss. there's a possible straight, possible over-sets, so I think check-call is perfectly appropriate here.

Same goes for the river - going all-in is either going to have everyone fold, or a better hand call. check, and only call if someone else bets small.
 
mrsnake3695

mrsnake3695

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Yes obviously the flop bet was way weak. 4 people in the pot of $1. .80 was not even close to enough. You floped a set, the only way you don't lose alot is if you bet out the draws here. When the king hit and you bet and got 2 callers you might have sniffed out a straight and check/folded the river, but that's hard for even the best players to do since a lot of weaker hands than yours also calls.

Basically, other than betting much more on the flop, you were destined to lose alot here.
 
dbitel

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This hand is played fine. Sure, an extra 20c would be good on the flop...but basically you played the hand fine
 
mrsnake3695

mrsnake3695

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dbitel,

You don't think a bet of $2 or $3 wouldn't be a better option. I know $1 is the pot size but it's still only $1 and pshycologically (sp) almost anything would call for that. The gut shot might call 2 or 3 or might not, there are straight and flush draws out don't you think we need to make sure they are calling wiht bad odds? I agree the rest was inevetable.
 
dbitel

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We WANT AT to call $1 on teh flop though. And I'd rather get value than chasing out weaker hands
 
zebranky

zebranky

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We WANT AT to call $1 on teh flop though. And I'd rather get value than chasing out weaker hands

I don't know about $1, but for around $1.50, yeah, we want callers. $3 just shuts out callers who will pay you, but a pot bet (or a little less) allows you to add value greater than the expected payoff if someone hits thie flush/straight. Its a cash game, so as long as they have to pay more than 3:1 odds to see another card, you're winning over time on the +EV scale.
 
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