Hot off the press; overbet on the flop, Call?

NineLions

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Villain is pretty loose and somewhat aggressive (58/10/3), though I neglected to check that before I got in the hand with him.


pokerstars Game #10210228201: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/06/01 - 01:55:01 (ET)
Table 'Cordelia V' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: BillyNU480 ($24.65 in chips)
Seat 2: dipstikdave ($28.80 in chips)
Seat 3: Ninelions ($21.30 in chips)
Seat 4: hapu ($14.05 in chips)
Seat 5: Silk on Tilt ($51.40 in chips)
Seat 6: touch_d_sky ($21.30 in chips)
Seat 7: onlybigchips ($43.30 in chips)
Seat 8: ApacheChief ($23.25 in chips)
Seat 9: skinnybill ($23.90 in chips)
hapu: posts small blind $0.10
Silk on Tilt: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ninelions [Kc Qd]
touch_d_sky: calls $0.25
onlybigchips: folds
ApacheChief: folds
skinnybill: folds
BillyNU480: folds
dipstikdave: folds
Ninelions: raises $0.75 to $1
hapu: folds
Silk on Tilt: folds
touch_d_sky: calls $0.75
*** FLOP *** [4h 9d Qh]
touch_d_sky: checks
Ninelions: bets $1
touch_d_sky: calls $1
*** TURN *** [4h 9d Qh] 6♣
touch_d_sky: checks
Ninelions: bets $2.25
touch_d_sky: calls $2.25
*** RIVER *** [4h 9d Qh 6c] [Td]
touch_d_sky: bets $17.05 and is all-in
Ninelions:


His bet was an insta-bet. Sign of a hand made on the river?
 
joosebuck

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that was a pretty shitty card for us. although this looks like a card that saved us a ton of money (could have easily flopped 44/q9/9Th)
 
NineLions

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that was a pretty shitty card for us. although this looks like a card that saved us a ton of money (could have easily flopped 44/q9/9Th)

You think he was just playing rope-a-dope?


When this bet came out, the first thing that came to mind was something in another thread, I think it was one of Mr Sticker's about the opponent bluffing on the river with the big bet.
 
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joosebuck

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i dont think it's that bad of a call at these limits against someone who you has badly applied aggression.
 
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In my experience, the check-call check-call shove/big lead line is reaaaally often a big hand. Sometimes it will be a flush draw that missed here, but I think I lean towards a fold without a good read on how likely that is.
 
stormswa

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ok

there is not enough in the pot to make this "crying call", I think we can wait for a better spot against a player like this.

wish I could add more but you played it fine.
 
joosebuck

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i dont think it's that bad of a call at these limits against someone who you has badly applied aggression.
that's supposed to be "have said has"
 
Stefanicov

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could be missed flush but id bet on u either being beat all along or kj either way u got off cheap fold laugh it off and sip another pina colada
 
NineLions

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It was a fast table, so I used my 30 seconds. Looked back at the cards and figured, there's enough of a chance he's called me down with a straight draw even though I didn't give him odds to do so. He hadn't done anything like this during my time at the table so far.

Lacking any other info, I figured better to fold this one, and see if he makes these kind of bets again. He didn't but left the table not too long after.
 
Bombjack

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Meh, looks like a bluff, I call... but then I have sick ninja ESP skills.

BTW why are your bets so tiny?
 
NineLions

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BTW why are your bets so tiny?

Good point. I was gonna say, whadya mean, tiny? and then I looked at them.

The only explanation I have is I was tilting a bit having lost a couple hands before this, and, I know I was playing abnormally tight/afraid as I was planning to send this session for review.


After losing another $10 or so I realized I wasn't playing my game and left the table. Have already won that back and more today with some fun fish targeting.
 
alexanderwoo1

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I would fearing that he could even he the straight on the river the K-J don't think he'd have J-8. My decision would be to fold the hand.
 
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