hit my set on the flop but flop has 3 diamonds

brutus

brutus

Legend
first hand at the table with no reads....

pokerstars Game #6867589723: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2006/11/02 - 17:12:37 (ET)
Table 'Callisto III' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Lodog1973 ($3.85 in chips)
Seat 2: Legendary 6 ($3.30 in chips)
Seat 3: dodson3000 ($8.10 in chips)
Seat 4: semisaneic ($2.20 in chips)
Seat 5: Geordears ($4.50 in chips)
Seat 6: zaxap82 ($7.10 in chips)
Seat 7: Papa Q ($9.95 in chips)
Seat 8: papamurfies ($6.70 in chips)
Seat 9: brutus34 ($6 in chips)
semisaneic: posts small blind $0.05
Geordears: posts big blind $0.10
brutus34: posts big blind $0.10
Legendary 6: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to brutus34 [Kc Kh]
zaxap82: folds
Papa Q: calls $0.10
papamurfies: calls $0.10
brutus34: raises $0.40 to $0.50(how much do ya bet here)
Lodog1973: folds
Legendary 6: calls $0.40
dodson3000: calls $0.50
semisaneic: folds
Geordears: calls $0.40
Papa Q: calls $0.40
papamurfies: calls $0.40
*** FLOP *** [2d Kd 6d]
Geordears: checks
Papa Q: checks
papamurfies: checks
brutus34: bets $1
Legendary 6: raises $1 to $2(do ya assume he hit the flush and lay down the trips)
 
Lo-Dog

Lo-Dog

Cardschat Elite
first hand at the table with no reads....

PokerStars Game #6867589723: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2006/11/02 - 17:12:37 (ET)
Table 'Callisto III' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Lodog1973 ($3.85 in chips)

Sorry brutus not contributing here but who is this guy impersonating me!!!! Thats my handle dammit!!! and 1973 is my birth year! I'm gonna have to track this guy down and:damnmate: .

Ok I will give some input. Either lay it down or re-raise his weak min raise to see what hes really got. Ok thats not the best advice but I wanted to say something regarding your thread.:D
 
brutus

brutus

Legend
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:eek: tried to look em up but said player not found ....will keep an eye out and let ya know if theres a spotting though

wasnt you was it???? lol
 
ChuckTs

ChuckTs

Legend
Preflop: Depending on my read of the table, I might raise less than that, or way more than that. It looks like your table is pretty damn loose preflop, so based on that read I'd bump it up to like 80c or a buck.

Post flop: The pot's at $3, so I'm betting around $2 or $2.50 to give any draws bad odds.

What were the actions from the players behind him?

The way the hand played out, he could very well have the made flush, though he could also have a lower set, top pair, or even still be drawing for the flush. A minraise could mean great strength, though it could also mean that all he has is the ace-high flush draw.

I think you have the options of either calling then seeing how you feel about the hand on the turn, or pushing. Folding is not an option, as you're getting good enough odds to draw to the FH.
 
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dsm420

Guest
you're about 35% to hit your FH and he could be raising with the diamond ace you have to call here. there is also the matter of table image you don't want to be seen to get pushed off a hand early.
 
brutus

brutus

Legend
sry meant to include this part up to when it got back to me....

Legendary 6: raises $1 to $2
dodson3000: calls $2
Geordears: folds
Papa Q: folds
papamurfies: folds
brutus34: calls $1
*** TURN *** [2d Kd 6d] [3h]
*** TURN *** [2d Kd 6d] [3h]
brutus34: checks(why in the world i checked here i have no idea)
Legendary 6: bets $0.80 and is all-in
dodson3000: calls $0.80
brutus34: raises $2.70 to $3.50 and is all-in
dodson3000: calls $2.70(this is where i figured i was beat with the flush didnt think theyd both be chasing the flush)
*** RIVER *** [2d Kd 6d 3h] [Th]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
brutus34: shows [Kc Kh] (three of a kind, Kings)
dodson3000: mucks hand
brutus34 collected $5.15 from side pot(at least i didnt lose it all and still alive)
Legendary 6: shows [7d 8d] (a flush, King high)(doubt i could have gotten him out of the hand preflop anyway)
Legendary 6 collected $10.90 from main pot

agree the preflop bet was wrong i was at a big debate with myself on the amount to bet and get some action but not too many. was surprised to get that many callers and then the diamonds hit on the flop and i was very thrown then on what to bet, couldnt slowplay the set and very possible someone hit the flush, and to try to get rid of the chasers, and with my position didnt help any either. i dont usually play ring tables at these limits but after suffering a couple days of bad beat after bad beat trying to build the bankroll up a little then move back up, so not quite comfortable about the amount to bet preflop at these limits to get the action needed and chase the chasers out of the hand. i definitly should have followed the advice of watching the table for a bit before sitting down but just finished fixin the kids something to eat and thought id get a few hands in while they were eating and had absolutely no reads on the players.

how bad did i mess this hand up. was there any way of avoiding this from happening.
 
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shinedown.45

shinedown.45

Legend
first hand at the table with no reads....

PokerStars Game #6867589723: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2006/11/02 - 17:12:37 (ET)
Table 'Callisto III' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Lodog1973 ($3.85 in chips)
Seat 2: Legendary 6 ($3.30 in chips)
Seat 3: dodson3000 ($8.10 in chips)
Seat 4: semisaneic ($2.20 in chips)
Seat 5: Geordears ($4.50 in chips)
Seat 6: zaxap82 ($7.10 in chips)
Seat 7: Papa Q ($9.95 in chips)
Seat 8: papamurfies ($6.70 in chips)
Seat 9: brutus34 ($6 in chips)
semisaneic: posts small blind $0.05
Geordears: posts big blind $0.10
brutus34: posts big blind $0.10
Legendary 6: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to brutus34 [Kc Kh]
zaxap82: folds
Papa Q: calls $0.10
papamurfies: calls $0.10
brutus34: raises $0.40 to $0.50(how much do ya bet here)
Lodog1973: folds
Legendary 6: calls $0.40
dodson3000: calls $0.50
semisaneic: folds
Geordears: calls $0.40
Papa Q: calls $0.40
papamurfies: calls $0.40
*** FLOP *** [2d Kd 6d]
Geordears: checks
Papa Q: checks
papamurfies: checks
brutus34: bets $1
Legendary 6: raises $1 to $2(do ya assume he hit the flush and lay down the trips)
I would have to say that he has hit his flush, Why would he risk 2/3rds of his stack if he wasn't holding the flush?.
As for folding, thats a tough one.
As for your raise pfeflop, I don't see anything wrong with it, after all, you just sat down and didn't know how loose the table was and if you knew I'm sure you would have bet 10xBB.
 
brutus

brutus

Legend
my biggest weakness is preflop betting, and something i really need to work on....after looking through some of the hands ive posted and from advice of others hands im kinda starting to get a better feel of it, and alot of times lookin at my past hands and thinkin what the hell was that at my plays. i havent played many ring games until a couple days ago and it just seems harder to bet preflop in ring games than in a tourney where its chips instead of my money goin into the pot before the flop. i definitly need work on what to bet and when as this is the biggest flaw. which is why you dont see me postin in analysis threads, hopefully with more experience and help from everyone here ill get a better handle on it.
 
NineLions

NineLions

Advanced beginner
Just a comment on not knowing the table:

You weren't expecting that good a hand right off, rather expecting more marginal hands at first which would have let you get a feel for the table first.

But, maybe when you aren't sure, and especially if you're going down in levels, maybe it's better to bet too much and risk only winning the blinds than to be too low and have too many callers?

The reason I added "going down in levels" is that that's when you're more likely to find looser preflop play that what you're used to playing.
 
brutus

brutus

Legend
i really had no business playing any poker at this moment my mind definitly wasnt into it, and raising to only 5xs BB certainly not surprised what happened.i i definitly deserved what i got. this hand was a number of brainfarts right after another.
 
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