Correct way to play AA?

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Inscore77

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Sorry if this is a silly question, but I'm still trying to learn ring games


pokerstars Game #18330437955: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/06/23 - 13:17:46 (ET)
Table 'Namaqua' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: PiS.AA ($29.20 in chips)
Seat 2: kootifah ($14.55 in chips)
Seat 3: Grinsbert ($15.40 in chips)
Seat 4: Inscore77 ($26.95 in chips)
Seat 5: YurySt ($2.15 in chips)
Seat 6: AbuHaifa ($5.55 in chips)
Seat 7: Ryan323 ($2.80 in chips)
Seat 8: hansemann64 ($30.60 in chips)
Seat 9: k030101 ($24.30 in chips)
AbuHaifa: posts small blind $0.10
Ryan323: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Inscore77 [As Ac]
hansemann64: folds
k030101: raises $1.25 to $1.50
PiS.AA: folds
kootifah: folds
Grinsbert: folds
Inscore77: raises $1.75 to $3.25
YurySt: folds
AbuHaifa: folds
Ryan323: calls $2.55 and is all-in
k030101: calls $1.75
*** FLOP *** [3s 4s 2d]
k030101: checks
Inscore77: bets $5.75
k030101: raises $15.30 to $21.05 and is all-in
Inscore77: calls $15.30
*** TURN *** [3s 4s 2d] [Ad]
*** RIVER *** [3s 4s 2d Ad] [2h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
k030101: shows [Kd Kh] (two pair, Kings and Deuces)
Inscore77: shows [As Ac] (a full house, Aces full of Deuces)
Inscore77 collected $40.85 from side pot
Ryan323: mucks hand
Inscore77 collected $8.10 from main pot
Ryan323 leaves the table
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $51.50 Main pot $8.10. Side pot $40.85. | Rake $2.55
Board [3s 4s 2d Ad 2h]
Seat 1: PiS.AA folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: kootifah folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Grinsbert folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Inscore77 showed [As Ac] and won ($48.95) with a full house, Aces full of Deuces
Seat 5: YurySt (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: AbuHaifa (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: Ryan323 (big blind) mucked [Ts 9s]
Seat 8: hansemann64 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: k030101 showed [Kd Kh] and lost with two pair, Kings and Deuces
 
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Move to brags, IMO. This was one of those times when you didn't have to do a thing. Villain was determined to either bluff you out, or open your pockets and pour his stack in.

There is no time here where you needed to do anything other than keep the bidding (betting) alive. Min raises would have accomplished it if necessary, but it was not. They did all the work, and in true capitalist fashion, you reaped all the benefits.
 
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Move to brags, IMO. This was one of those times when you didn't have to do a thing. Villain was determined to either bluff you out, or open your pockets and pour his stack in.

There is no time here where you needed to do anything other than keep the bidding (betting) alive. Min raises would have accomplished it if necessary, but it was not. They did all the work, and in true capitalist fashion, you reaped all the benefits.
Like I said, I"m still learning ring games lol, so I didnt know if I played it absolutely perfect or if I had just gotten lucky and they handed their chips over
 
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I think the only thing you could have done different is to shove preflop, which, in this case PROBABLY would only have chased Ryan out. The Kings would still call, end result probably the same minus the 2.55 Ryan added.

That said, there are probably things here to consider which I can't even imagine. Possible meta game aspects perhaps. I am no ring game guy, and there are some great ones here, so hopefully I haven't tainted the post with my inane bs.

Things I considered;
PF you have no worries, if anything you don't want to shove here.
Flop, you have five hands to worry about, 22,33,44, A5, 56. I'd be more worried about the fl draw than any of those hands. The five hands don't fit the betting story well. In all cases villain would probably play for value. The draw could account for the post flop betting, especially if you have such a read on villain. Still, greatly discountable IMO, in almost all cases. Villain does NOT want to see a turn.
Turn, you are now committed, regardless. And as the money is already in, you only breathe relief here for a minor consideration.
 
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Your preflop raise is tiny. 3-bet to at least $4.50, if not $5-6ish.

Stacking this flop is standard.
 
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Agree with a larger 3-bet (at least $4.50). In general we want to get as much in preflop as possible with AA and KK.
 
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Ryan323 was a non-issue. That short stacker is stacking at this point.

Your three bet should be bigger. The guy put in $1.50, so I'd raise it $3 more to $4.50.

Actually, I'd do at least $5. (Maaaaaybe $6.) With the shorty in the pot I want it to look like I'm trying to isolate myself with the guy. (I'd bet the lesser amount if k030101 was dumb and more if k030101 was a thinker)

It turned out well though.

Post flop... any over pair is apt to stack to chase off the straight draw. Your money is going to be good here most of the time.

With that early position, larger-than-standard raise I'd put him on J/J. Does he always bet that high? If not, I'd definitely make a note on that behavior.
 
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Raise more Pre. 3x the original raise is the absolute minimum you should be making your 3-bets. 3.5-4x is somewhat more standard.
 
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Agreed with above. Bigger 3-bet size, shove is fine here. Look at what beats you. It's 22-44 and 56 and A5. Doesn't exactly scream hands that would call a 3-bet preflop (although again, bigger 3bet or else you may even be giving implied odds to 22-44). Easy stack here, in fact I think it's an easy stack here for villain as well. Your range is much wider than just AA and again misses that flop entirely. You played it fine postflop, and it was just a cooler for him. You should lose your money should you get in his situation as well (although I would have shoved preflop if I were him with KK).
 
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/post deleted, i've had too many drinks tonight and wasn't thinking, duh
 
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There's $1.85 in the pot, with $1.50 for him to call. Therefore a pot sized raise is:

1.85 + 1.5 + 1.5 = $4.85

A raise to $5-$6 is in no way an overbet.
 
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yea 3x is standard, usually you actually want to 3bet a little more.
 
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