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ez2cy

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STAGE #506197637: HOLDEM NO LIMIT $0.25 - 2006-12-01 06:53:53 (ET)
Table: ERIE AVE (real money) Seat #4 is the dealer
Seat 4 - EZ2CY ($40.07 in chips)
Seat 5 - DESIPANE ($23.28 in chips)
Seat 6 - RACKDEMUP ($55.57 in chips)
Seat 2 - AVENSS ($40.95 in chips)
Seat 3 - BERK3131 ($17.25 in chips)
DESIPANE - Posts small blind $0.10
RACKDEMUP - Posts big blind $0.25
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to EZ2CY [As 7c]
AVENSS - Folds
BERK3131 - Calls $0.25
EZ2CY - Raises $0.75 to $0.75
DESIPANE - Folds
RACKDEMUP - Calls $0.50
BERK3131 - Calls $0.50
*** FLOP *** [9s Kc Ac]
RACKDEMUP - Checks
BERK3131 - Checks
EZ2CY - Bets $1
RACKDEMUP - Folds
BERK3131 - Calls $1
*** TURN *** [9s Kc Ac] [7s]
BERK3131 - Checks
EZ2CY - Bets $1.50
BERK3131 - Calls $1.50
*** RIVER *** [9s Kc Ac 7s] [7h]
BERK3131 - Checks
EZ2CY - Bets $2
BERK3131 - Raises $9.75 to $9.75
EZ2CY - All-In(Raise) $34.82 to $36.82
BERK3131 - All-In $4.25
EZ2CY - returned ($22.82) : not called

What does he have? Did I misplay the hand, besides maybe actually playing a weak A7 on the button?
 
Jack Daniels

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AK for 2pr that he tried to slow play? or like a K7 - thought that would be LOL stupid if he did. How about A7 for a split pot.
 
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ya my guess is that if you're beat hes got 99er & now you make a note that he doesnt define his hand ever if it's strong
 
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It sounds like on of those donks who slowplays Pocket Kings.
 
Dorkus Malorkus

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Raise 4bbs preflop (or even 5 depending on table conditions) - 3bbs is too little with a limper. Rest of the hand is played fine.
 
zebranky

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BLUFFING?

This one is really tough without a read on the opponent. I really don't think he hit a boat, but there's such a massive range of hands that I wouldn't place him anywhere.

I think you needed to extract more information on this hand to get a better read. the PF raise is fine - 3BB is fine with A7 shorthanded.

However, on the flop, turn and river each time you bet progressively less
(compared to the pot) - about 1/2 pot on the flop, 1/3 on the turn, and less than 1/3 on the river. This is a weak lead, which is fine if your goal is to keep the opponent in the pot. But in terms of being able to read him, you're not getting information - any hand that made at least a good pair on the flop is likely to call you down.

My best guess is that he's bluffing. I wouldn't be surprised to see either two clubs or A-x spades on the showdown. Because you were using a weak lead, your opponent may have taken it for a sign of a weak hand (say, an ace with an unpaired kicker), and is trying to buy the pot from you.

I think you're right to push all-in, and if he actually does have the winning hand, make a note that he must be an extreme slow-play artist.
 
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t1riel, come on down you WIN!!!!!

*** SHOW DOWN ***
EZ2CY - Shows [As 7c] (Full house, sevens full of aces)
BERK3131 - Shows [Kd Kh] (Full house, kings full of sevens)
BERK3131 Collects $33.60 from main pot

Now, two questions One. Who's the bigger donk? Him or me, for the way we played the hand? I know, Me as I lost the money. LOL

Two, I think it was reb that said to make a note of him that he slowplays alot. I don't have much on him in PokerTracker, 135 hands, 39.85 VP$IP and won $13.75 @.25 cent table. Now is there somehow in PT that will show me a person likes to slow play. Keep in mind I'm the one that posted I don't totally understand all the uses of PT.

Thanks again for the replies.
 
zebranky

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donk him...

t1riel, come on down you WIN!!!!!

*** SHOW DOWN ***
EZ2CY - Shows [As 7c] (Full house, sevens full of aces)
BERK3131 - Shows [Kd Kh] (Full house, kings full of sevens)
BERK3131 Collects $33.60 from main pot

Now, two questions One. Who's the bigger donk? Him or me, for the way we played the hand? I know, Me as I lost the money. LOL
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King Donk award goes to your opponent. He flops trips, and then checks with two clubs on the board. And an A on the board.
So not only is he losing an opportunity to increase the pot when he's got the best hand, he's willing to give a free card to anyone holding an A or a couple clubs.
Ironically (despite my earlier comments), your play actually looks better knowing the results. He could rely on you to bet, so he didn't bet - you kept control of the pot. And you kept it small until his river-raise. A great example of pot control when you're behind and drawing (even if you didn't know you were behind).

I still think your all-in call was correct - the odds of him holding a PP to break you are fairly slim. I've seen a bluff here many times, and a weak 2 pair just as often. Bad luck, but keep on trucking and you'll get there.
 
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if his AF is under 2 hes more likely to call than raise.
 
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t1riel; You get an all expense vacation to the WPT event in Aruba. Ok...I'm a poker player and I'm now bluffing.....LOL
 
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joosebuck; His overall af is 3. flop was 2.2, turn 3.17 and river 5.

Now, remember I only had 133? hands, not a huge sampling on him.
 
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