$50 NLHE 6-max: AK in 3bet pot, river opions?

[Aleksei]

i like check/ call on the river. you give him rope to hang himself and you get to re evaluate after he has made his move.

You have nothing to reevaluate. You have lol odds, so you have to call.

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

he's got 31 behind OTR, thats more than 1/2

 

[Ducky7]

I read the first two comments but this is a shove, there is no other option, its lol if he has diamonds but there is literally no other option

 

[kanselau]

if 40% is a high f3b then I dunno what to do in poker anymore

rivers a shove, he has 1 diamond combo.. maybe 2 at a stretch compared to all the other shit we beat and want value from

shoves pretty easy, dunno what else you want us to say

Don't you account for hands like 5d7d, 6d7d, 8d9d, Ad5d for any anyone who is balancing their range from UTG , How can you just narrow his range to AQd here?
What to do on the river is also dependent of what villain thinks of us , where C/call might be better , than shoving.

 

[Ducky7]

Don't you account for hands like 5d7d, 6d7d, 8d9d, Ad5d for any anyone who is balancing their range from UTG , How can you just narrow his range to AQd here?
What to do on the river is also dependent of what villain thinks of us , where C/call might be better , than shoving.

OP said the guy was opening 16% from UTG non of these hands open UTG apart from mayyyyyyybe 78s
Axs is a defo no as hes not calling 3b's with it

 

[kanselau]

OP said the guy was opening 16% from UTG non of these hands open UTG apart from mayyyyyyybe 78s
Axs is a defo no as hes not calling 3b's with it

He s not calling 3b's with a Axs assuming hes a good player and with the sample size given and no reads we cannot assume this. 16% of hands def include Axs hands, especially if we consider his Fold/3b stats.

 

[Ducky7]

Well if he is calling 3bs with Axs hands (although this is still extremely unlikely and only gna be A7-9s imo if it is, it means we are shoving the river for lol value if hes that bad, so it works either way

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

Don't you account for hands like 5d7d, 6d7d, 8d9d, Ad5d for any anyone who is balancing their range from UTG , How can you just narrow his range to AQd here?
What to do on the river is also dependent of what villain thinks of us , where C/call might be better , than shoving.

He s not calling 3b's with a Axs assuming hes a good player and with the sample size given and no reads we cannot assume this. 16% of hands def include Axs hands, especially if we consider his Fold/3b stats.

what

 

[kanselau]

Well if he is calling 3bs with Axs hands (although this is still extremely unlikely and only gna be A7-9s imo if it is, it means we are shoving the river for lol value if hes that bad, so it works either way

Agree with showing the river as played, from what we know about villain , but disagree with narrowing his range to AQs.
Not an expert on 6max on the net , but what do you think about this .
We have a small sample size and no reads on villain , we have no stats or information on hero.
Imagine a situation where the villain is a fish raises with Axs and calls a 3bet hoping to hit his flush (possible?)
In scenario 2 villain is very competent player raises UTG with 57s , and gets 3bet by an LAG who has 3B stats 25. Is it possible Hero flats in this spot.
I have seen some tough oponents flatting in the right spots because they know that either that their opponent is so bad that implied odds go through the roof , they can out play their opponent or the oponents range is very narrow .

 

[Ducky7]

3b 25% is so lol high that its barely possible, also when we 3b a 16% UTG opening range from the sb our range is lol nutted so we are never folding post flop that much so he cant "outplay" us and get folds

 

[Ducky7]

And if the villain is a fish (obvs not by his stats) then the river is a value shove coz he calls with worse