$50 NL - OOP squeeze gets called...

Bombjack

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Uber n00b has been raising far too much pre-flop (38/31/16)

wycklow is a TAG (17/5/14) who is somewhat passive pre-flop

This looked like a good squeezing spot.

Seat 1: wycklow ($51.80)
Seat 2: Hero ($88.20)
Seat 3: Wally_Wall ($116.90)
Seat 4: MidniteBaseball ($50)
Seat 5: POGermain ($132.50)
Seat 6: super_bebop ($24.85)
Seat 7: asmrozi ($62.85)
Seat 8: Uber n00b cs ($22.05)
Seat 9: tassler ($49.95)
Hero posts the small blind of $0.25
MidniteBaseball posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #1

Holecards :
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POGermain folds
super_bebop folds
asmrozi folds
Uber n00b cs raises to $1.50
tassler folds
wycklow calls $1.50
Hero raises to $7
MidniteBaseball folds
Uber n00b cs folds
wycklow calls $5.50

Flop:
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Hero...
 
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Well his most likely holdings are middle pairs, and maybe AQ+. Small pairs and suited connectors generally don't call this much, and big pairs obviously reraise.

I don't like the squeeze so much considering we'll be OOP if anyone calls (which he obv did), but as played I think we can toss in ~$10 and take it down more often than not.
 
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I don't like the squeeze play here. I would have picked a better hand to make that move. I think many players overvalue J, 10 too much. Fold preflop.
 
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I find a ton people playing J-10 and people usually win big or lose big. I would have folded preflop though.
 
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I don't like the squeeze play here. I would have picked a better hand to make that move. I think many players overvalue J, 10 too much. Fold preflop.
What is your criteria for making squeezes?
 
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Ace anything, Q, J or better. K, 10 or better. I just don't see why you reraise with J, 10 offsuit other than the fact you had position. If there were no raises, then the play is understandable.
 
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I'd have thought the cards don't matter too much when you're squeezing, because the idea is to get everyone to fold. Anyway wouldn't it be better to make the play with a hand that's not easily dominated like JT, and not Ace-rag?

I was out of position here (and to a thinking player, that makes my hand look stronger), and if there are no raises it's not a squeeze be definition.
 
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We have a gutshot! im with Chuck. 12$ bet.
 
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You like?

Flop:
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Hero bets $13.50
wycklow raises to $27
Hero raises to $81.20, and is all in
 
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wow. I do like lol. You have fun hands BJ lol.

With deeper stacks and his minraise, id prob put him on a pair trying to see if you have AA or KK or whatever.

But with these stacks, wycklow has 34$ already in the pot, and only 16 left?!

Do we have any fold equity with our shove?

16 to call a 100$ pot, im thinking hes calling this everytime?!
 
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That is a slight problem. I should maybe have made my flop bet a little bit smaller so I'd have more fold equity if he called or raised. However if he thinks he's drawing to two outs, he can probably still fold. I definitely have outs with the gutshot if called, and Jacks and Tens may also be outs. Backdoor flush is worth one more out.
 
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Yeah great move but I'm afraid he's not deep enough to fold this. I fear that he might feel beat, he's probably on AQ, but shortstack desperation usually calls there. I hope he folded or else the turn brings you a 9.
 
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Hell probably think he has 5 outs though. If he has KQ hell put you on AA or if he has AQ and with such a large pot and only 16 to call, hell consider KK.

On those 5 outs alone he has odds to call, plus adding the feeling of being pot committed after putting 2/3+ of his stack in.

If he folds this thatd be the coolest move ive ever seen lol.
 
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Btw do we include JJ or TT in his range here?
 
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Definitely 99-JJ are possible, and they'll probably fold to a shove.
 
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And they would fit the preflop call more than KQ or even AQ.
 
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Results:

Flop:
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Hero bets $13.50
wycklow raises to $27
Hero raises to $81.20, and is all in
wycklow folds
 
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