50 NL, his line makes no sense



read on villian is that hes pretty loose before the flop and passive after. i think he might be tired of calling my raises and folding to my c-bets. the reason i didn't raise flop is because bullets had min-bet donked into me previously and stacked my AK on a AK4 flop with 4/4 (good thing he doesnt buy in for max :) ) anyway, this guy's line makes no sense to me at all, what do you think?

pokerstars Game #7190145129: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2006/11/26 - 20:58:07 (ET)
Table 'Wild' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: wrxblue04 ($33.85 in chips)
Seat 2: Dorbitz ($34.15 in chips)
Seat 3: TheMint ($45.35 in chips)
Seat 4: losetomuch ($42.80 in chips)
Seat 5: bullets911 ($58.90 in chips)
Seat 6: mj23lbj111 ($56.50 in chips)
losetomuch: posts small blind $0.25
bullets911: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mj23lbj111 [Ah Js]
mj23lbj111: raises $1.50 to $2
wrxblue04: folds
Dorbitz: folds
TheMint: folds
losetomuch: calls $1.75
bullets911: calls $1.50
*** FLOP *** [5s 2h 5h]
losetomuch: checks
bullets911: bets $0.50
mj23lbj111: calls $0.50
losetomuch: calls $0.50
*** TURN *** [5s 2h 5h] [Jh]
losetomuch: bets $20.50 :confused:


No idea what he has, but I'm dumping this. No point risking your stack on a flop like this with only top pair (or 2 pair rather)...

What was bullet's action after this?


bullet folded, and yeah, i obviously didnt risk my stack on this, but i wanted to shove soooo bad.


Rock Star

Im guessing a weak weak flush, and he didnt want someone with a K Q A 10 to draw for a higher flush?

or... psycho...

easy fold imo.

Edit: My question to you is, why did you call a min bet on the flop? Pot odds? Sure, but you hit top pair and folded. I would say take the .50 bet / calls as weak and re-raise to $3 or $4 to push out any draws... lots of "those" people will min bet with a draw or low pocket pair to hopefully push a few out and establish aggression.

Anyway, in the long run, it only cost you .50 more cents... but if he only bet $2 here and really had the flush, he could have strung you along for several $$ (and the 4 card flush on the flop has better odds of hitting than your pair)
Dorkus Malorkus

Dorkus Malorkus

You're only beating a total bluff or maybe an idiot with KJ or suchlike. As he's betting $20.50 into a $7.50 pot he has to be bluffing a hell of a lot to make calling profitable, pretty easy fold.

I guess that wasn't the real question though and you're more curious about villain's range. If he is passive, it's doubtful he'd do this with a small part of the board - I think we can even go so far as to largely discount Jx here. Basically he either has a huge hand or has absolutely nothing most of the time. Nothing really makes sense here though as a huge hand will want to get paid and the huge overbet with something like a small flush is only getting called by a hand that beats him.

So yeah nothing makes sense. Make a note and move on.