$5 PLO 6-max: Jack high flop, dry board with 3 villains: Jam with KK good?

[puzzlefish]

$5 PLO 6-max: Jack high flop, dry board with 3 villains: Jam with KK good?

pokerstars, Omaha Pot Limit - $0.02/$0.05 - 6 players
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UTG: $4.00 (80 bb)
MP: $7.10 (142 bb)
CO: $6.79 (136 bb)
BU: $2.21 (44 bb)
SB: $6.84 (137 bb)
BB (Hero): $4.36 (87 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.12) Hero is BB with A[emoji815] 7[emoji813] K[emoji813] K[emoji815]
UTG checks, MP raises to $0.22, CO calls $0.22, BTN calls $0.22, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets to $1.17, UTG calls $1.12, MP calls $0.95, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.95

Flop: ($4.92) 7[emoji815] J[emoji813] 2[emoji812] (4 players)
Hero bets $3.19 (all-in), UTG calls $2.83 (all-in), MP calls $3.19, BTN calls $1.04 (all-in)

It's rare to get such a nice hand and so much action on a table of six. I was having some second thoughts about continuing aggressively on the flop. Would appreciate comments on pre-flop raise and flop action.

Background:
Maybe about 20-30 hands at the table so far.
BU is a loose maniac that had been raising pot preflop pretty much every hand where nobody raised before him.
MP is a conservative player and has been in line so far. Tends to fold when facing betting pressure.
Little known about the other players. Maybe a bit nitty, if anything.

 

[eetenor]

PokerStars, Omaha Pot Limit - $0.02/$0.05 - 6 players
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UTG: $4.00 (80 bb)
MP: $7.10 (142 bb)
CO: $6.79 (136 bb)
BU: $2.21 (44 bb)
SB: $6.84 (137 bb)
BB (Hero): $4.36 (87 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.12) Hero is BB with A[emoji815] 7[emoji813] K[emoji813] K[emoji815]
UTG checks, MP raises to $0.22, CO calls $0.22, BTN calls $0.22, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets to $1.17, UTG calls $1.12, MP calls $0.95, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.95

Flop: ($4.92) 7[emoji815] J[emoji813] 2[emoji812] (4 players)
Hero bets $3.19 (all-in), UTG calls $2.83 (all-in), MP calls $3.19, BTN calls $1.04 (all-in)

It's rare to get such a nice hand and so much action on a table of six. I was having some second thoughts about continuing aggressively on the flop. Would appreciate comments on pre-flop raise and flop action.

Background:
Maybe about 20-30 hands at the table so far.
BU is a loose maniac that had been raising pot preflop pretty much every hand where nobody raised before him.
MP is a conservative player and has been in line so far. Tends to fold when facing betting pressure.
Little known about the other players. Maybe a bit nitty, if anything.

Thank you for posting

Some situations dictate a single action. This is one of those spots post flop. Shoving is the only action on this board with this hand. That does not mean that we win because MP could have AA and one of the other 2 could have JJ but there is simply nothing else for us to do.

Do not second guess yourself no other action is correct for this spot.

Hope this helps

 

[puzzlefish]

Thanks eetenor. I have been thinking this over for a while. I agree jamming is the only correct choice here, but even with the jam we are looking at a coin flip at best the majority of the time. In this particular instance I did manage to pull though and the kings held. But not too much later I was on the opposite side of that coin with exactly the same type of scenario, but that time the flip was not on my side. I am not sure how profitable it is in the long term. In this particular distribution, the pot odds are right. In many others, they are not so good.

PokerStars, Omaha Pot Limit - $0.02/$0.05 - 6 players
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UTG: $4.00 (80 bb)
MP: $7.10 (142 bb)
CO: $6.79 (136 bb)
BU: $2.21 (44 bb)
SB: $6.84 (137 bb)
BB (Hero): $4.36 (87 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.12) Hero is BB with A[emoji815] 7[emoji813] K[emoji813] K[emoji815]
UTG checks, MP raises to $0.22, CO calls $0.22, BTN calls $0.22, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets to $1.17, UTG calls $1.12, MP calls $0.95, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.95

Flop: ($4.92) 7[emoji815] J[emoji813] 2[emoji812] (4 players)
Hero bets $3.19 (all-in), UTG calls $2.83 (all-in), MP calls $3.19, BTN calls $1.04 (all-in)

Turn: ($15.17) K[emoji814] (4 players, 3 all-in)

River: ($15.17) 8[emoji813] (4 players, 3 all-in)

Total pot: $17.55 (Rake: $0.59)

Showdown:
BB (Hero) shows A[emoji815] 7[emoji813] K[emoji813] K[emoji815] (three of a kind, Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 41%, Flop: 42%, Turn: 72%, River: 100%)

UTG shows Q[emoji814] T[emoji815] Q[emoji813] 8[emoji815] (a pair of Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 13%, Flop: 17%, Turn: 19%, River: 0%)

MP shows Q[emoji812] Q[emoji815] 8[emoji814] 9[emoji813] (a pair of Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 11%, Flop: 17%, Turn: 9%, River: 0%)

BU shows 6[emoji814] 2[emoji813] 5[emoji813] 6[emoji813] (a pair of Sixes)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 35%, Flop: 24%, Turn:

 

[dallam]

Seeing these hands after the showdown I won't raise in MP's shoes pre, and of course button is just wrong on so many levels too.

As you did your job by the pot-raise it was suprising to see 3 other people represented. And as I could be worried now JJ, we better to do the all-in line as turn could damage our combination more, and could make this dry table in their favour. I see your point of the best-case-coinflip - However if we ain't make here a step, we just miss to cut out the field, and as we can still hit runner-runner flush on two sides, set, full, straight - all-in is probably the way to punish the light calls and hoping that our hand find the strenght again in the two remaining streets.

We can reduce the flips in poker, but we can't avoid them.