3way 3Bet pot Overbet Shove on the river

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pokerrr2 App (basically runs as a live game)
0.25$/0.5$ (optional UTG straddle to 1$) 150$ CAP
8 handed

V1 UTG puts in a straddle to 1$
MP1 opens to 4$
Folds to Hero on the BTN with AdQc and Hero 3Bets to 7.5$ (covers)
V1 from SB cold calls the 3-Bet (eff. 71$)
V2 from Utg also does (eff. 157.30$)
MP1 folds
Both Villains are loose passive recs
We go 3 ways to the flop

flop (24.75$)
7d Js Tc
It checks arround

turn (24.75$)
7d Js Tc 9s
V1 checks
V2 bets 18.30$
Hero calls
V1 calls

river (79.65$)
7d Js Tc 9s 8d
V1 checks
V2 overbets shove for 131.50$

Even though we block the KQ, there are still many combos and is this ever just a Qx hand? Especially with another person left to act behind us...
 
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pokerrr2 app (basically runs as a live game)
0.25$/0.5$ (optional UTG straddle to 1$) 150$ CAP
8 handed

V1 UTG puts in a straddle to 1$
MP1 opens to 4$
Folds to Hero on the BTN with AdQc and Hero 3Bets to 7.5$ (covers)
V1 from SB cold calls the 3-Bet (eff. 71$)
V2 from Utg also does (eff. 157.30$)
MP1 folds
Both Villains are loose passive recs
We go 3 ways to the flop

flop (24.75$)
7d Js Tc
It checks arround

turn (24.75$)
7d Js Tc 9s
V1 checks
V2 bets 18.30$
Hero calls
V1 calls

river (79.65$)
7d Js Tc 9s 8d
V1 checks
V2 overbets shove for 131.50$

Even though we block the KQ, there are still many combos and is this ever just a Qx hand? Especially with another person left to act behind us...


Thank you for posting

This is a good hand to use the equilab program for the turn decision to define how wide a player would need to be for us to call that sizing. However you defined your V as loose passive what passive player monster bluffs that board into 2?

Using the cards chat calculator on the turn we are way behind one pair hands with a flush draw with a player left to act and a Q river card sucks for us and an Ace is a check down hope to win card only. Also because we were drawing to the second nuts here we now have reverse implied odds on the river vs the nuts.

Hope this helps
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As is so often the case, it completely depends what that player is capable of.

Some will overbet the river with just a Q, hoping to get you off a chop (or just thinking it's the nuts), others will only be able to do that with KQ.

Which player type is your villain?
 
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I am confused by the betting. The heading list the game as $150 cap. The shove on the river exceeds the cap.
I would have c-bet the flop to define V2's hand. V2 could have anything preflop, given she straddled. When she calls Hero's raise she is putting in $3, getting huge odd, and closing the action .

As played when V2 bets the turn Hero should fold. Hero has 4 kings and 4 eights outs to a straight. and 3 ace or 3 queen outs that may or may not be good with just one card to come.

When the straight comes and V2 shoves either she isn't passive or she has the KQ. no way to tell.
 
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fold fold fold. most likely you are drawing to queens
 
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