3 jacks Vs. flush

Genso Hikki

Genso Hikki

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Again, from a live cash game. Sorry I mostly post these, but I don’t play online so much these days as all my time is sucked up by live games. I’d like some feed back on the way I played the following hand. Criticism is very welcome.

Blinds are $1, $2

Stack sizes are approximate:

Seat 1: $50
Seat 2, Hero: $75
Seat 3, Villain: $90
Seat 4: $100
Seat 5: $60
Seat 6, button: $30
Seat 7, small blind: $40
Seat 8, big blind: $80

Dealt to Hero: Jc, Jh

Seat 1: folds
Hero raises to $8.00
Villain Calls $8.00
Rest of table folds

Pot size is $19

Flop: 6d, 2d, Jd

Hero bets $10
Villain raises to $50

Hero?

Now, I play with this guy a lot, and he’s prone to call huge pre-flop raises with any ace, no matter how raggy his kicker is. He’s also someone who bluffs way too many of his hands. In our group, he is known as the resident donk. However, it is possible here he called my pre-flop raise with Ace, little suited in diamonds, in which case he already has the flush. What do you think would be the proper play in this situation?
 
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GivPeace

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Well from your information on the player and his re-raise you have to push in this situation . I doubt he has the nut flush, most donks always follow the slow play for such a strong hand, if he did have it he must have sniffed out you had a strong hand like a set which i doubt again because his a donk. He probobly has a hand like you said AdX and is just semi-bluffing you on the nut flush draw. I really say there is no way you can lay this down to this type of player. Hope it turned out well and good luck.
 
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switch0723

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Insta shove, you are likely against 2 pair or a set, or even top pair with a diamond, all of which you crush, In the very rare situation where your opponent has flopped a flush you still have outs to a fh.

Mind you i posted a situation like this only a few days ago where i had top set on a 3 flush 3 straight board and i played that badly so dont go by what i said

Also as i side note, with blinds at 1$ 2$, you should buy in to this table for 200$ and boss it around a bit based on the stack sizes of everyone else
 
Genso Hikki

Genso Hikki

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Also as i side note, with blinds at 1$ 2$, you should buy in to this table for 200$ and boss it around a bit based on the stack sizes of everyone else

I agree, and have even done that several times, but everyone bitched so much I stopped doing it. My feeling is if they're going to play at that blind level they should up their stakes, but hey, what do I know?
 
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Pair & flush draws, naked flush draws, two pairs, smaller trips, slowplayed overpairs, the case jack and probably some other weird hands are all hands we beat. A made flush is the only hand we're behind, and we've still got about %34 equity against it.

Pretty easy push considering his range imo.
 
Genso Hikki

Genso Hikki

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I did shove.

I show my trip jacks he shows the 7d, 8d so he has a made flush and I’m waaaay behind.

Turn is 9c, but lo and behold the river is the 6s, giving me a full-house.

The reason I posted this is because the way I processed the hand in my head is pretty much the same way Chuck posted. I knew if he had a made flush I was beat, but I was way ahead of everything else I could put him on. After the hand was over, and he stopped whining about the bad beat, he casually mentioned that if I keep calling when I suspect I’m behind, I’m going to turn into an ATM. I’ve always been an overly-tight player – in fact, I think I still play a bit too tight, especially online, but this is two hands for rather large pots recently where I’ve called a bet that put me all-in even though I suspected I was beat. Both times, I’ve managed to suck out the win, but I’m a little concerned that I’m starting a pattern of making bad calls, talking myself into it based on odds while totally ignoring what my gut is screaming at me about the situation.

It seems weird from someone who’s always been criticized for being a nit to suddenly be worried about becoming a calling station, but I am.
 
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