25NL 6-max combo draw.

edge-t

edge-t

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Blinds: $0.15/$0.25
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $24.50
UTG+1: $24.00
CO: $53.65
Button: $25.10
SB: $75.65
Hero: $52.20

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 8♠ 7♠
2 folds, CO raises to $0.5, Button folds, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: 5♠ 10♠ 9♥ ($1.5, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1, CO calls, SB folds.

Turn: K♣ ($3.5, 2 players)
Hero bets $3, CO raises to $6, Hero push???

I think Villain likes his hand quite a bit. I've been pushing him off the pot quite a bit, he might be a little pissed with me. There's a very high chance he'll call.

What's your play?
 
ChuckTs

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Naw, I just call this. If his minraise is a sign of a very strong hand in villain's mind (say TPTK+), then we have a good chance of stacking him on the river if we hit. No point in sticking our whole stack in here while we're sure we're behind if we can win money on the river when (if) we hit our draw.

With a big combo draw like this, I'm trying to get my stack in on the flop so that I have both the turn and river to draw out on, not just the river as in this case.
 
blankoblanco

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Yeah, I'd almost always just call here. The only exception would be really read dependent, i.e. you've a) seen CO make turn minraises in a situation like this as a cheap play at the pot and without a hand, and b) the times he does have a hand you don't think he'll pay you off any if the spade hits

At 25NL I think most hands players are minraising on the turn with, they're willing to go all the way with, so you probably don't have much fold equity if you reraise. I think you're probably getting good enough implied odds to call. A spade should make you some money, and a 6 could make you a lot because that straight would be pretty well concealed. Making the J high straight is actually not so good for you because he could definitely have QJ or KQ, and even if he doesn't, he'll be afraid that you have the Q so you won't make much
 
stormswa

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im also just calling, with just one card to come. The problem here is it would be much much better to hit your straight seeing as it is more well hidden. Your line looks very much like a flush draw with overs so I think if flush hits you might not get paid off.
 
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I think Villain likes his hand quite a bit. There's a very high chance he'll call



Those are the keywords that automatically answer your question. The whole reason to reraise in a situation like this on the turn is because of the chance he folds, and if he doesn't you have 15 outs (being optimistic that his hand isn't QJ), so about a 30% chance of making your hand.

If the 1st condition (chance he folds) isn't there cause you think he loves his hand too much, then the price isn't correct for you to raise/shove.

Just call, you're priced in for that, hope to hit and get his ass big time.
 
edge-t

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Here's the results:

Turn: [Kc] ($3.5, 2 players)
Hero bets $3, CO raises to $6, Hero calls.

River: [7h] ($15.5, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $9, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $9 returned to CO.

Results:
Final pot: $15.5

Played it exactly the same way as you guys mentioned. He's probably on KQ, AK or QJ. Thought I was being a pussy for not raising. Still cutting my teeth playing 6-max. What can I say? Variance-tastic. I could be drawing to 8 clean outs only, that's the only reason why I didn't raise. I still have a lot to catch up on reading opponent's hands.
 
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