200NL 99 gets two callers and shortstack shove

[blankoblanco]

limp/shover is 40/8/1.5. yes, his vp$ip is 40, so his limp, even UTG means little more than "i has cards"

first caller is 37.5/12.5/2. other caller is a kathy liebert-like 18/15/1

my image is pretty standard TAG. is our hand good enough to reraise to isolate? if so, how much do you raise to? do you just call? even fold??

full tilt poker Game #4801409449: Table Quail Breast - $1/$2 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:21:06 ET - 2008/01/09
Seat 1: xxULUZAxx ($199.50)
Seat 2: baslerksc ($26.15)
Seat 3: 0_Drunkenboxer ($291.30)
Seat 4: combuboom ($202.50)
Seat 5: 8fivesuited ($223.60)
Seat 6: tom_1983 ($39.75)
Seat 7: Wild_French ($210.65)
Seat 8: Class V ($474.60)
Seat 9: The Guok ($317.25)
The Guok posts the small blind of $1
xxULUZAxx posts the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to combuboom [9s 9c]
baslerksc calls $2
0_Drunkenboxer folds
combuboom raises to $9
8fivesuited folds
tom_1983 folds
Wild_French calls $9
Class V folds
The Guok folds
xxULUZAxx calls $7
baslerksc raises to $26.15, and is all in
combuboom

 

[GivPeace]

Hard sense both people in front of you would have you covered. I would say push all-in to isolate and I would only really do this if I had a good enough read ( sorry still don't understand those poker tracker #'s ) of the two callers, like through hand history you could tell if they held a marginal hand with a raise of 4.5 x BB . I say the best move would to fold.Your out of position with a marginal hand 193.00 isn't worth pick up 52.00 that is out there.......Then again gambling is fun

 

[ChuckTs]

reraising to isolate doesn't mean we have to shove - that's just taking a huge, unnecessary risk. We could even minreraise in this spot, get the same fold equity, and save tons for the times someone behind us has a better hand (which I doubt personally).

But ya, I'll reraise to isolate this. I don't see many better pairs smooth calling pf barring TT which is possible, but we can even fold that out. I repop basically minimum here because I feel we're ahead of the limp-pusher but don't want to face a 3-way flop with a big pot.

 

[baconn]

Min reraise to isolate, you're up against another pp most likely.

 

[switch0723]

I think pushing all in is a very bad move since that will accomplish the same as a raise to about 70$, but you will only be called in that situation by hands that have you crushed. I think a raise to 70$ is a good enough amount to isolate and take the board as an 80% fav

 

[blankoblanco]

what's the minimum pair we'd still reraise to isolate with here? 88? 77?

i agree of course that going all-in is way overzealous and unnecessary, a move kathy liebert would classify as uncool. the main focus i think is raising enough that i'm giving smaller pocket pairs bad odds to call, so that they're making a mistake if they do

 

[ChuckTs]

Well I think that depends on the ranges of the players behind and how likely they are to smooth call your initial raise with certain pairs, but 99 seems like the borderline for me. TT is still definitely a possibility, and with 88 we add another pair (99) that we have to get through.

 

[skoldpadda]

I'm in the camp of raising (to about $65) to isolate.

 

[blankoblanco]

alright, i suppose this one wasn't too interesting. good result though:

combuboom raises to $58
Wild_French folds
xxULUZAxx has 15 seconds left to act
xxULUZAxx folds
combuboom shows [9s 9c]
baslerksc shows [7s 7h]
Uncalled bet of $31.85 returned to combuboom
*** FLOP *** [8c Ks Kh]
*** TURN *** [8c Ks Kh] [Jd]
*** RIVER *** [8c Ks Kh Jd] [4s]
combuboom shows two pair, Kings and Nines
baslerksc shows two pair, Kings and Sevens
combuboom wins the pot ($68.30) with two pair, Kings and Nines

oh boy i won enough to take kathy liebert out on a date