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Check fold no Turner e river
Checking back top trip 9x in a 4bet pot when your opponent is heavy with KK+ and AK and some AQ.
Are you just completely joking?
Hi, Charlie!
Charlie values a lot that he will have position postflop in a 4bet pot(maybe more than he should given his hand selection, at least if he calls always with A9 pre here). Yes, the slowplay is standard, you only lose to QQ now. I believe UTG does not shove the turn in order to have sufficient bluffs on the river if he does not get there, while still bein able to represent QQ and AA/KK at a frequency, because pre-flop ranges are pretty narrow.
Charlie wants to have position postflop that's why he 3bets aggressively here, calls the 4bet because he is going to have said position in a big pot. Also, UTG wants Charlie to call because he knows he has a wider range than normal. Also, Charlie does not care about long term in the 200z pool, people already know he is very aggressive, and he does not play the stake regularly.Without knowing notes of them, UTG's open often hide a great combination, and UTG+1's 3-bet seems really strong. So the whole action may started about range fight. A9s in a 6-way is not that bad card, although calling from the position he had is not the best option since it could grow multiway without any read, so I believe that was the way of his to isolate others and getting into position.
When UTG made a 4-bet pre, it was so small that he actually had great prize to call now, and as he had the A blocker as well. Maybe getting in a great shape with a top pair over a dealt one, or just be able to control the action. Of course in long term these light 3-bets can be loosy, although at a cash table it's not always the worst thing to show several lines and cards I believe.
I mean Villain come up with a half-pot bet and it's still get called, it should not put he in the greatest shoes, should it?
I confess that when I first saw the 4-bet sizing I found it suspicious. The aggressor who 4-bets isn't deep stacked enough to put up a larger sizing like this so it seems that it clearly has some AJ+ or 99+...whatever...on the flop the aggressor also does another odd move, putting up 1/2 pot into a very dry flop...why is that? it looks like it has lost the hand. OTT it becomes clear that the aggressor has some hand that missed and wants to control pot, we dare to hint some AJ, KJ, AK...and as long as the defendor checked (trapped) it decided to jam it's missing AK OTR, just for deception and just to get called for winning hands, such as any queen.
Yup. Sorry.
I believe he wants Charlie to call because he knows he has wider ranges in general, and since he shows up with that(A9), he believes he can stack him off in Ax vs. Ax situation, either by value betting 3 streets or allowing him be aggressive by checking(which I believe is true, at least at some capacity)
I also believe that Epiphany77 played the hand well post-flop. As far as UTG concerned, I believe he wants to keep Charlie in the pot because he thinks he has wider ranges than normal(he is right), and can stack him in an Ax vs. Ax situation. I don't know about his cbet sizing on this board though, I would also cbet smaller if I weren't to check, something in the vicinity of 20%-25%-30%.
I agree, it is quite possible that there was a prehistory here.
