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MrBronze
Rising Star
Bronze Level
- Game
- Hold'em
- Game Format
- No Limit
- Stakes
- $.50/$1
- Table Format
- 6-max (6 seats)
- VP$IP
- 21
- PFR
- 5
- AF
- 3
- Currency
- €
Villain Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 21/5/3
Hi all, I need you wisdom and experience on this. Apologies in advance about the messy writing.
Situation in the game before the hand:
So we are playing 6-Max cash all night 1$ NL, then one player leaves(so we are 5-Max), another one loses his stack to me(this dude was playing 95%VPIP betting 15bb every hand for at least 1h or more) and goes for a smoke with the Villain.
Also we are playing 72 and the winner gets 5$ from each player. Villain has noticed that I did bluff on a previous hand 120$ (preflop 4 - betting another player) into a 40$ pot to win with 72 which at that time got me only 20$ from other players (5-Max game) and he has commented on this. Mine VPIP maybe was around 18-25% at the table before they left... but before that we had one super loose aggro player who was in every hand raising to 15bb so I could not have been calling him very often
This is important => so approx 25 min later both players return. During that time I win another 100 bb +-. And the table calls me the big winner & I have 1440 bb +-
So the Villain goes into this speech(45s) how he's going to win my stack or part of it.(Sit & Go reg who knows Nash algo very well) and this Monologue is before the cards are delt. And this is the first hand with those two joining our 3-Max so we have a 5-Max again.
The Hand:
I'm in the sb or bb with KJo (1440bb).
Villain: bb or UTG (670bb)
Villain: he either bets 3$ or limps(we had one crazy player who was constantly raising to 15bb the one who lost his stack and went for a smoke)
I from say SB/BB raise to 15$.
Villain calls.
FLOP: 9c10d2s maybe +-(can't remember perfectly)
I bet 20$ or 25$
Villain calls
TURN: 9c10d2s6d (or something similar for the last card)
I bet 30 or 35$ cant remember
Villain calls
River: 9c10d2s6dAd
I bet 40 or maybe 50
Villain raises to 120$
I fold...
After thoughts:
I tank on the river raise and Villain starts talking that I'm taking a long time to think and that I should fold or something in that regard using minimal comments(he is a sint&go reg who played poker professionally for 7 years or so). Over the years there were quite a few cases when he bluffed and got me off a hand in the past, yes I'm good enough to fold sometimes maybe even too often! As well as in some cases** giving commentary/advice for me to fold in some hands where he was not playing in order for me to save $ f.e. "it seems like that guy has a K..." and yes that guy had a K. I don't think this was necessarily the case. Please remember the long monologue how hes going to win money from me. And what his image will be at the table if he loses the first hand....
I also remember similar situation happening in another game where I was betting like 40$ into 100-120 $ pot on the river and he had raised me and then I folded and he showed a bluff.
Now I see that I was betting way too small on the river... because on the flop we already at least had 31$ in the pot so likely the pot before my river bet pot was at least 100 - 135$ +- & I was definitely barreling all three streets.
Questions:
So How often can I raise on the river? I should be easily able to at least raise to 300-500$ maybe even go All in and play for his 670bb stack. I don't think he has a flush... most def did not had the pot odds to call the flop.. maybe he had them on the turn assuming he gets paid of on the River.
Can I ever looking into the commentary before the hand and all the other small nuances you no doubt have noticed just go all in? for 670bb? raise 700$?
He in theory should be able to call me with a flush or straight... maybe a set. My image should have been solid enough for his fold perhaps. I felt like he had 2 pair type of hand but again I need advice on this one. Maybe I should have overbet the river barreling like 200$ ... yes the river bet was idiotically small. Could have been a great blocker bet and then I could have reraised him, will do it next time.
Thanks.
Hi all, I need you wisdom and experience on this. Apologies in advance about the messy writing.
Situation in the game before the hand:
So we are playing 6-Max cash all night 1$ NL, then one player leaves(so we are 5-Max), another one loses his stack to me(this dude was playing 95%VPIP betting 15bb every hand for at least 1h or more) and goes for a smoke with the Villain.
Also we are playing 72 and the winner gets 5$ from each player. Villain has noticed that I did bluff on a previous hand 120$ (preflop 4 - betting another player) into a 40$ pot to win with 72 which at that time got me only 20$ from other players (5-Max game) and he has commented on this. Mine VPIP maybe was around 18-25% at the table before they left... but before that we had one super loose aggro player who was in every hand raising to 15bb so I could not have been calling him very often
This is important => so approx 25 min later both players return. During that time I win another 100 bb +-. And the table calls me the big winner & I have 1440 bb +-
So the Villain goes into this speech(45s) how he's going to win my stack or part of it.(Sit & Go reg who knows Nash algo very well) and this Monologue is before the cards are delt. And this is the first hand with those two joining our 3-Max so we have a 5-Max again.
The Hand:
I'm in the sb or bb with KJo (1440bb).
Villain: bb or UTG (670bb)
Villain: he either bets 3$ or limps(we had one crazy player who was constantly raising to 15bb the one who lost his stack and went for a smoke)
I from say SB/BB raise to 15$.
Villain calls.
FLOP: 9c10d2s maybe +-(can't remember perfectly)
I bet 20$ or 25$
Villain calls
TURN: 9c10d2s6d (or something similar for the last card)
I bet 30 or 35$ cant remember
Villain calls
River: 9c10d2s6dAd
I bet 40 or maybe 50
Villain raises to 120$
I fold...
After thoughts:
I tank on the river raise and Villain starts talking that I'm taking a long time to think and that I should fold or something in that regard using minimal comments(he is a sint&go reg who played poker professionally for 7 years or so). Over the years there were quite a few cases when he bluffed and got me off a hand in the past, yes I'm good enough to fold sometimes maybe even too often! As well as in some cases** giving commentary/advice for me to fold in some hands where he was not playing in order for me to save $ f.e. "it seems like that guy has a K..." and yes that guy had a K. I don't think this was necessarily the case. Please remember the long monologue how hes going to win money from me. And what his image will be at the table if he loses the first hand....
I also remember similar situation happening in another game where I was betting like 40$ into 100-120 $ pot on the river and he had raised me and then I folded and he showed a bluff.
Now I see that I was betting way too small on the river... because on the flop we already at least had 31$ in the pot so likely the pot before my river bet pot was at least 100 - 135$ +- & I was definitely barreling all three streets.
Questions:
So How often can I raise on the river? I should be easily able to at least raise to 300-500$ maybe even go All in and play for his 670bb stack. I don't think he has a flush... most def did not had the pot odds to call the flop.. maybe he had them on the turn assuming he gets paid of on the River.
Can I ever looking into the commentary before the hand and all the other small nuances you no doubt have noticed just go all in? for 670bb? raise 700$?
He in theory should be able to call me with a flush or straight... maybe a set. My image should have been solid enough for his fold perhaps. I felt like he had 2 pair type of hand but again I need advice on this one. Maybe I should have overbet the river barreling like 200$ ... yes the river bet was idiotically small. Could have been a great blocker bet and then I could have reraised him, will do it next time.
Thanks.
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