$10 NLHE Full Ring: Generic issue - premium pair OOP vs obvious draw

[Aces2w1n]

With players like you at 10nl i'll make 20nl very quickly ... just saying.

You can know all the maths in the world but it wont make a difference.. you either have it or don't in Poker

Keep on working on it and listen to others. John knows what he's talking about, sometimes we have to accept the unaccepted before we move on.

 

[LD1977]

It is hard to make big money off me since I am not a big loser. Math says so

 

[Aces2w1n]

your stuck at 10nl for some reason

 

[LD1977]

"Stuck" by choice, mostly because I didn't play last month so BR stayed the same. In fact I am going to scout 25NL this month a bit.

 

[John A]

John - So what you are saying is that check/call is the best in this line if I am doing this with an overpair (paired board in this concrete hand validates Jx hands and makes the scenario worse for me, but generally speaking)? There are more draw combos than value combos, but villain probably doesn't bet them all - or more specifically, some villains do but a percentage of villains don't also, the whole check/call thing is supposed to be bad most of the time, no? This is why I try to implement more bet/folding.

No. That's not even close to what I'm saying. I'm not even sure how you're coming to that conclusion. You're the one saying that it makes no sense to bet because your opponent has odds. And I've clearly said, no, that's not correct. How you're thinking about the math is incorrect. You need to re-think or read some more about your equity versus draws.

 

[LD1977]

What I meant was, if FD misses the river do I still fire the 3rd barrel (hoping for a call from some weak 1 pair hand) or check and bluffcatch (and accept I get owned by better hands some of the time)?

 

[iknowrightt]

I think you were beat for sure. Hard to play that hand on the river given the call on flop and turn. If he had top pair, he has trips. If he has 2 spades he has a flush. KQ made the str8. I would check fold.

 

[JCgrind]

What I meant was, if FD misses the river do I still fire the 3rd barrel (hoping for a call from some weak 1 pair hand) or check and bluffcatch (and accept I get owned by better hands some of the time)?

villain dependent obv?

value bet stations, x/c spewtards, x/f regnits. ez game

 

[LD1977]

Sure, against known opponents. It is not so easy to be sure vs weekenders, even though they are usually weak there are a few types.