$10 NLHE 6-max: Brutal sick disgusting hand with very deep stacks

Delvuter

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Sorry fo rthat flop by the way, that sucks and I feel your pain big time.
 
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I don't understand people saying your preflop raise should have been 2 or 3 $ more. That's crazy.

If you are stacking on this flop, you are basically stacking on EVERY flop, right?

Okay, so.lets.consider this is a multi-way pot. Sure, most of the pot is coming from the deep stacks, but there is a good chunk of change involved going multi-way.

The $10 bet looks like an attempt to.isolate, nothing wrong with that. AA wants to be heads up. However, if we bet 10, and 10 is called, then we are going to basically be shoving the flop every time. Because we are in a situation where we can only get 1 pot sized bet post-flop. That means we are committed from the get-go. Meaning, if we make a pot sized bet on the flop we have almost no choice but to shove on any later street (pot equity and whatnot).

If we are going to shove the flop no matter what, we ought to just shove pre. We have the best haND. If this guy is calling a $10 raise then he might just call anything. (He shouldnt).

Also IF we are ever considering a fold, then this is the flop for it. If you are justifying that you can't fold this flop, then why not shove pre? You aren't losing value.

So maybe a better question is, what flop do you fold? If you can't think of any, then you need to either rethink your deep stack game, or you need to find a fold once in a while.

Deep stack poker (against a good player) should dramatically change their range. The reason is that there are now crazy good implied odds. Meaning TT should be in his range, AQ should maybe be in his range. As well as a bunch of other stuff. When you can take a massive stack off someone, you can afford to play suboptimal hands.

Good luck, bad beat. But shove pre or try and think of a flop you fold on.
 
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