1-2$ NO LIMIT LIVE POKER "Did I play this correctly"?

[TimovieMan]

I want to shove, because I don't want anyone calling. I already know that they do not have the better hand on the flop.

That's funny. When I have the best hand, I want *everyone* to call. More money for me.

No pocket eights are in there and the rarity of Ace/8 or King/8 being there is just to rare.

You don't know that. Pocket 8s are a good hand to limp/call with from early position live.

Now, I do not want a flush draw to call.

Why not? They will miss way more than they'll hit, and if you made your bet larger than half pot, they wouldn't have the odds to call. Unless they know you'll stack off regardless.

I surely did not want a Pair with a flush draw to call. Hence, Why I am shoving because I highly doubt anyone will call with a flush draw, but in my game dynamic mind of thinking, I am comfortable with taking in the 42.00$ pot by betting out 82.00$ left in my stack. If giving these "donkey" players as you guys like to call them the chance by me betting only 40.00$ into a 42.00$ pot, I gave him "enough odds" in his mind of thinking to make the call.

Except you don't, and you want them to call because that's your win rate. Let them make the poor decisions.

You do not have to agree with my play here, i said give me suggestion of what would have been the best play AFTER THE FLOP.

I still have not read one yet. Except for the one that agreed with me.

Bet a little less on the flop. 30-32$ is enough.

Check the turn. That K is actually a scare card for you. Especially with the Ks unaccounted for.

Call a non-spade river bet.

 

[MinhANguyen]

The 'master poker player' definitely has a superiority complex. Calling '100%' of the people here who could help him 'dirt' and consistently ignoring all the advice given to him.

There's no point giving advice to a professional poker player who 'studies daily' and still thinks shoving into a 21bb pot is a good idea.

+1

 

[tbdbitl]

He's right guys. Shove flop with every value hand. That's how you crush.

Absolutely! after all he's the pro. I was going to add some insight that I have from my live play, but after reading all the abrasive and abusive responses to comments here, I'm not sure he really wants any insight from any perspective other than his own. Obviously he did not really want to know what he did wrong or what he could have done differently.

I guess I'll pass.

 

[Mr Sandbag]

If you don't understand that we make money by getting value from draws and worse hands then you need to study a LOT. And I don't mean that as an insult.

We always want flush draws to call. Think of it this way: slot machines are profitable for a casino because people dump money into them with no chance of winning long term. Sure, the casino has to pay out the occasional huge jackpot, but they're making a ton of money anyway. Likewise, we want people to chase draws and call with weak pairs because we profit massively long term. Obviously they're going to hit them sometimes but not often enough to make us losers.

If you're scared of losing to draws in the short term and react by shoving flops with every value hand, you are throwing away a TON of money.

And btw, bluffing means betting to get better hands to fold and in turn all weaker hands to fold as well. Shoving flop is never going to get called by weaker hands, technically turning the hand into a bluff. You bet $40 and got called by a weaker hand, making it a value bet. That's profit.

 

[Aaron Soto]

ok.

 

[starting_at_the_bottom]

Exactly. I did not want to be called.

I was wondering how a player that takes poker so seriously could say something so dumb.

Then I saw your avatar and it all made sense.

 

[popecu alez]

Shoving the flop ! me shovingo on the flop

 

[Aaron Soto]

You clowns don't know a thing about Poker. It's actually, entertaining to read. This gives me more information that I need as to what the mindset of people on the 1-2 or 1-3 tables think. I'm sure though 1/2 the people I play with are way above your guy's level of play. It's actually quite entertaining how stupid some of these answers are it is almost funny ! lol.

 

[ConDeck]

Do you play online anywhere?

 

[John A]

Do you play online anywhere?

Hehe.... stop.

I'm just surprised so many people didn't realize what was going on here and actually offered advice. Bad read my CC friends. You had the avatar. You had the bad grammar. You had the I've won some pentance in a small sample, I'm a pro. You had the really bad understanding of range, equity, and bet sizing. You had the age. You had the child support. You had lack of job.

A lot of reads missed.

 

[IPlay]

I'd like to think I had a solid read here but I did spew a little

 

[ConDeck]

Hehe.... stop.

I don't know what you mean...

I'm just surprised so many people didn't realize what was going on here and actually offered advice. Bad read my CC friends. You had the avatar. You had the bad grammar. You had the I've won some pentance in a small sample, I'm a pro. You had the really bad understanding of range, equity, and bet sizing. You had the age. You had the child support. You had lack of job.

A lot of reads missed.

I think it speaks for the forum that people were so wiling to offer help and advice... despite the unappreciative and at times rude response of OP. I hope this continues, and for the times a situation like the above occurs then at least it creates some amusement (or it did for me anyway).

 

[Aaron Soto]

Bovada

 

[ghOst]

UTG +1: Sits there and thinks about it then starts asking UTG +2 what he should do (which really irritated me and is why I can't stand these 1-2 players...) Eventually he calls 40.00$ (I figured a flush draw instantly. The only other thing was A/x suited.

This right here was the tell you were supposed to be paying attention to. By him simply asking what he should do means that he knows you have an ace!! He is thinking about the odds of hitting the trap card against your ace and it worked. So him speaking up was your key man...that second king was supposed to be suspicious but you shoved. Next time tho

 

[vinylspiros]

-I was speeding with my motorcycle and then i fell. What should i do in order to prevent this from happening in the future?

-Drive slower.


-Shut up ,i dont want any advice.

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[Hunterholliday]

Is there a reason you dont want a flush draw to call?? For most people being on the better side of 60% to win is a great reason to want them to call. If your so dependent on keeping what money you have in front of you that you cant afford to lose it to a 2-1 gamble, you dont have a strategy problem, you have a bankroll problem. Dont play with the money if you cant afford to lose it. But as you are asking purely for strategy advice, yes you want a call, you want a call all day long. If he has any of the hands "you put him on" then you make him pay. Oh snap, he beat you on this one. Next time do the same thing. Play this a thousand times and 700 of those time you win this hand. You got unlucky, deal with it and stop name calling. Your just being rude now

 

[Trabendo_daze]

ConDeck I think he plays .01/.02 on Stars if you want to take all his cash. Might take a while though

 

[ConDeck]

ConDeck I think he plays .01/.02 on Stars if you want to take all his cash. Might take a while though

Probably not, I doubt he has much left to take

 

[MinhANguyen]

Probably not, I doubt he has much left to take

Gonna need a burn heal for that one