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Silver Level
I think I may have found my biggest money leak when playing MTTs.
Blinds were 400/800, I was sitting on ~8.1K, and was dealt 88. The stack sizes behind me up to the CO were very short, between 2K-4K. The CO and BTN were sitting on ~40K each and the blinds were both smaller than my stack.
I decided to shove and at best pick up the blinds, get called by a smaller stack and knock them out, or get called by the big stack and hopefully double up.
I lost the hand and was out of the MTT. I took a look at MTT lobby and noticed that I was the bubble boy, busting 20th/19 places paid. The bottom player had 120 chips in their stack. A closer inspection and my stack size put me at around the 8th place, which I found interesting as I only had 10BBs.
So, did I make a mistake in shoving the 88s UTG? I've always been a player who advocates shoving hands when you're at 10BBs, but maybe I need to take a different approach to the strategy on the money bubble. If I had been paying more attention I would've noticed the severe short stack and maybe would've folded, most likely got into the money, and found another spot to shove....but is folding the right move?
What hands are we calling and folding here? I'm sure we're def shoving KK+, but AK? Or maybe we just fold. I don't know the formula, but I'm sure there is a way to calculate your risk vs reward for these types of situations? If anyone knows it or can point me in the right direction, I appreciate it.
I guess my ultimate question is: What is the most profitable play in this situation?
Blinds were 400/800, I was sitting on ~8.1K, and was dealt 88. The stack sizes behind me up to the CO were very short, between 2K-4K. The CO and BTN were sitting on ~40K each and the blinds were both smaller than my stack.
I decided to shove and at best pick up the blinds, get called by a smaller stack and knock them out, or get called by the big stack and hopefully double up.
I lost the hand and was out of the MTT. I took a look at MTT lobby and noticed that I was the bubble boy, busting 20th/19 places paid. The bottom player had 120 chips in their stack. A closer inspection and my stack size put me at around the 8th place, which I found interesting as I only had 10BBs.
So, did I make a mistake in shoving the 88s UTG? I've always been a player who advocates shoving hands when you're at 10BBs, but maybe I need to take a different approach to the strategy on the money bubble. If I had been paying more attention I would've noticed the severe short stack and maybe would've folded, most likely got into the money, and found another spot to shove....but is folding the right move?
What hands are we calling and folding here? I'm sure we're def shoving KK+, but AK? Or maybe we just fold. I don't know the formula, but I'm sure there is a way to calculate your risk vs reward for these types of situations? If anyone knows it or can point me in the right direction, I appreciate it.
I guess my ultimate question is: What is the most profitable play in this situation?