midway thru the tournament i was low stacked about 10 bb and someone raised ahead of me i had pocket nines and went all in i lost to pocket queens do u think going all in with pocket 9s was a bad move
Nope
Standard
no when you get under 10 BB you should get it in with 99
midway thru the tournament i was low stacked about 10 bb and someone raised ahead of me i had pocket nines and went all in i lost to pocket queens do u think going all in with pocket 9s was a bad move
It depends on the range of the player......There is no standard in poker!
As I stated you turned this into a mathematical equation. Based on a long term statistical program. If you were at the wsop and Phil Ivey raised utg preflop you would not even think twice about shoving with your pocket 9's in utg+1 position. Sometimes there are other factors you might consider before shoving in desperation just because you are way short stack.No, you don't seem to get it mate. There are plays that are fundamentally +EV and others that are not. They may work sometimes, but will lose you money in the long run. Shoving 99 with 10bbs is +EV. Sometimes you run into QQ, sometimes 88 and sometimes you'll be flipping a couple overs, but it's a move that will win you more than it loses in the long run. Make sense?
No, you don't seem to get it mate. There are plays that are fundamentally +EV and others that are not. They may work sometimes, but will lose you money in the long run. Shoving 99 with 10bbs is +EV. Sometimes you run into QQ, sometimes 88 and sometimes you'll be flipping a couple overs, but it's a move that will win you more than it loses in the long run. Make sense?
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Most the players here base all their decisions om mathematical equations. They really do not care about results for 1 particular hand. They detach themselves from the human factor of the game and play pure statistics.
Just get used to it or be prepared for Battle :fight:
As I stated you turned this into a mathematical equation. Based on a long term statistical program. If you were at the WSOP and Phil Ivey raised utg preflop you would not even think twice about shoving with your pocket 9's in utg+1 position. Sometimes there are other factors you might consider before shoving in desperation just because you are way short stack.
As I said this is my opinion. I try to look at who I am playing stack size and the big picture before throwing my last hope in the middle of the table and start praying. In this case I most likely would have busted all in with my 99. But you never know the Moon might have been close to Venus. And the axis of the earth may have affected my decision
I totally agree with shoving all in here. With the facts given by the OP.care to enlighten us with exactly what the human factor is?
That's like saying shove with 22 utg first hand of a tourney. A poker player must determine the kind of opponents that he is up against and he must play accordingly.
No its not, effective stacks and previous action and position are all significantly different. not to mention the relative strength of 77 compared to 22.
77 played in early position or against an early position raise is a losing hand.how is 77 a -ev hand?
Do you even know what EV is?
And for the final time, the number of chips you had is irrelevant if the blinds are high, by mentioning the stack you had you are inferring that
100,000 chips at 100/200 level is different to having 10,000 chips at 10/20. its not.
3bet shoving 77 with 17bb into someone opening 100% of hands with 40bb is extremely +EV
how is 77 a -ev hand?
Do you even know what EV is?
And for the final time, the number of chips you had is irrelevant if the blinds are high, by mentioning the stack you had you are inferring that
100,000 chips at 100/200 level is different to having 10,000 chips at 10/20. its not.
3bet shoving 77 with 17bb into someone opening 100% of hands with 40bb is extremely +EV